Israeli-Palestinian conflict (53 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
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well you can, you just have to live with the consequences, obviously a lot of big players are on Israels side.

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c'mon man

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this is super dangerous, western media needs to push back a little bit
why is this even news? the terrorists are terrorists and their ideology and mission isn't a hidden secret. whether Hamas guy had a chemical manual or not in his backpocket doesn't change a thing, no?
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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Irrespective of whether its internationally recognised or not, Azerbaijan's actions as recently as a month ago were nothing short of genocidal. The military forcibly evicted and displaced over 100,000 ethnic Armenians who had inhabited the region for centuries, after having nearly starved half of them to death from the Lachin Corridor blockade.

Now I'm not arguing that Israel are totally clean of wrongdoings, that was never my point. My argument focuses on the hypocrisy of the muslim outrage in regard to Palestine. If you're going to criticse Israel for human rights abuses, then apply the same energy to what muslim countries are doing to neighbouring non-muslim populations. Because otherwise then it becomes clear that this isn't about the loss of innocent human life, but the loss of muslim life.
Well no one ever gave a fuck about the 700k Azeri's displaced from their own goddamn territory for 30 years. That's hipocricy.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,540
well you can, you just have to live with the consequences, obviously a lot of big players are on Israels side.

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why is this even news? the terrorists are terrorists and their ideology and mission isn't a hidden secret. whether Hamas guy had a chemical manual or not in his backpocket doesn't change a thing, no?
Of course, you can do anything really, I’m pointing out how saying something that harmless resulted in companies pulling out and causing a stink. The guy did not endorse Hamas or terrorism.

the consequences are way overblown out of proportion and it’s peak cancel culture
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
Of course, you can do anything really, I’m pointing out how saying something that harmless resulted in companies pulling out and causing a stink. The guy did not endorse Hamas or terrorism.

the consequences are way overblown out of proportion and it’s peak cancel culture
Nah, this is about terrorism, war crimes, murdered babies, freedom and bombed civilians, stuff that matters.

Peak cancel culture is going on for a couple of years and is about extreme snowflake stuff, this doesnt even get close.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,540
Nah, this is about terrorism, war crimes, murdered babies, freedom and bombed civilians, stuff that matters.

Peak cancel culture is going on for a couple of years and is about extreme snowflake stuff, this doesnt even get close.
below is what the guy said, it’s condemning war crimes regardless of who commits them. Why should there be consequences for that?


"War crimes are war crimes even when committed by allies, and should be called out for what they are," Cosgrave wrote, referring to Israel's wave of attacks on Gaza after the violence committed by Hamas.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Nah, this is about terrorism, war crimes, murdered babies, freedom and bombed civilians, stuff that matters.

Peak cancel culture is going on for a couple of years and is about extreme snowflake stuff, this doesnt even get close.
Lol.

Are you fucking serious?

The guy said war crimes are war crimes even when they are committed by allies. That's what he said. Have you actually read it? Oh no, I forgot. You're mister numbers man. Go look up some stats.
 

abstract

Senior Member
Mar 3, 2012
4,940
well you can, you just have to live with the consequences, obviously a lot of big players are on Israels side.

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why is this even news? the terrorists are terrorists and their ideology and mission isn't a hidden secret. whether Hamas guy had a chemical manual or not in his backpocket doesn't change a thing, no?
Because it gives them permission to do more heinous things to a population if they claim they have chemical weapons, why would they lie in the first place if it means nothing ?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Those companies are owned by jews. If anything, they would be the one pressuring governments.
There it is. We agree on something.

It's weird. You know it has to happen at some point. You never disagree with someone all the time. Life is so complex and so profoundly diverse that there is bound to be at least one issue on which you agree. I didn't know beforehand what it would be. I thought we'd agree on something mostly factual. Like how ant feces are small and elephant feces are big. I think we could have had an agreement on that as well. But that's neither here nor there really.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,788
well you can, you just have to live with the consequences, obviously a lot of big players are on Israels side.
I know Paddy. That event is in my backyard every year.

In case anyone else needed reason to think cancel culture was a self-destructive pogrom...

below is what the guy said, it’s condemning war crimes regardless of who commits them. Why should there be consequences for that?


"War crimes are war crimes even when committed by allies, and should be called out for what they are," Cosgrave wrote, referring to Israel's wave of attacks on Gaza after the violence committed by Hamas.
There is nothing wrong with what he said. The issue was what he didn't say. People are taking the absence of him opening first by condemning the Hamas murders as the equivalent of an endorsement of what Hamas did. That's what's particularly moronic.

When we have people throwing hissy fits, taking their toys and their Big Tech companies away, because they're vilely offended because someone didn't say something, then we're endorsing a system of coerced speech.

Paddy should have been smart enough to know that's how he should have framed it in the first place. But the reaction is as if someone said "Muhammad" without following it up with a "peace be upon him" and that being taken as an anti-Muslim insult.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
I know Paddy. That event is in my backyard every year.

In case anyone else needed reason to think cancel culture was a self-destructive pogrom...



There is nothing wrong with what he said. The issue was what he didn't say. People are taking the absence of him opening first by condemning the Hamas murders as the equivalent of an endorsement of what Hamas did. That's what's particularly moronic.

When we have people throwing hissy fits, taking their toys and their Big Tech companies away, because they're vilely offended because someone didn't say something, then we're endorsing a system of coerced speech.

Paddy should have been smart enough to know that's how he should have framed it in the first place. But the reaction is as if someone said "Muhammad" without following it up with a "peace be upon him" and that being taken as an anti-Muslim insult.
Or like when you tell people you want to build a space telescope so big it can look back into the past and pinpoint the exact moment in which Muhammad assfucks a toddler.

Peace be upon him.
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
Lol.

Are you fucking serious?

The guy said war crimes are war crimes even when they are committed by allies. That's what he said. Have you actually read it? Oh no, I forgot. You're mister numbers man. Go look up some stats.
Am I serious that cancel culture regarding to war and terrorism isnt peak cancel culture compared to other instances such as pronouns and other shit? Yes. Why are you so angry about it?

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below is what the guy said, it’s condemning war crimes regardless of who commits them. Why should there be consequences for that?


"War crimes are war crimes even when committed by allies, and should be called out for what they are," Cosgrave wrote, referring to Israel's wave of attacks on Gaza after the violence committed by Hamas.
I'm not saying there should be, but it was pretty predictable, the world is what it is.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,346
Am I serious that cancel culture regarding to war and terrorism isnt peak cancel culture compared to other instances such as the right use of pronouns and other shit? Yes. Why are you so angry about it?
I'm asking.

Have you read the article you were commenting on?

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Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
Because it gives them permission to do more heinous things to a population if they claim they have chemical weapons, why would they lie in the first place if it means nothing ?


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
Ok, that makes sense. I misunderstood that its about Hamas reputation and what lengths are they willing to go to achieve their targets.

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I'm asking.

Have you read the article you were commenting on?

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Have you read the comment you quoted lol?
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,540
Am I serious that cancel culture regarding to war and terrorism isnt peak cancel culture compared to other instances such as pronouns and other shit? Yes. Why are you so angry about it?

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I'm not saying there should be, but it was pretty predictable, the world is what it is.
yes, because of cancel culture
 

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