Israeli-Palestinian conflict (67 Viewers)

[Tomice]

A lot of people need to be very embarrassed they bought into the Hamas misinformation about the hospital strike

They won't. People who even think their opinion is vindicated will shout it out of rooftops. When they might be wrong they turn silent and move on.

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While the daylight pictures do seem to show a lesser of a strike, possibly pointing to propaganda from Hamas, we are now hearing that anyone that thought it could have been the IDF is an antisemite and on the side of Hamas. So the propaganda works both ways and literally never ends.

I say just glass parking lot all of Israel, Gaza, parts of Syria, and just be done with it all.

The minimum then is to apply the same standard of scrutiny and doubt to both side equaly. It's almost never the case evidently

 

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[IliveForJuve]

They won't. People who even think their opinion is vindicated will shout it out of rooftops. When they might be wrong they turn silent and move on.

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The minimum then is to apply the same standard of scrutiny and doubt to both side equaly. It's almost never the case evidently

Depends on who you ask. My conservative mother and sisters are drinking that Israeli kool aid without hesitation.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Turkey has entered the chat

 

[Tomice]

Depends on who you ask. My conservative mother and sisters are drinking that Israeli kool aid without hesitation.

Ofc, It goes both ways naturally.

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Turkey has entered the chat

Well it's not unprecedented and it not the first time he threatened and done nothing

 

[U Picciriddu]

I’m wondering, why aren’t Egypt, Libanon and Jordan willing to accept any refugees?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I’m wondering, why aren’t Egypt, Libanon and Jordan willing to accept any refugees?

Because that's exactly what israel wants.

What you should be asking is why are we ok with israel creating refugees

 

[Tomice]

I’m wondering, why aren’t Egypt, Libanon and Jordan willing to accept any refugees?

They're not the best guests

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

 

[U Picciriddu]

They're not the best guests

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Civil_War

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

Yeah I was discussing the Lebanese Civil War with a co-worker today, totally forgot about Black September. Don’t know to much of that either I have to admit. Still though I havent exclusively heard those wars as an argument.

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Because that's exactly what israel wants.

What you should be asking is why are we ok with israel creating refugees

We can redirect that question to ‘why did Hamas start a war they can’t win’, it doesn’t change much about the situation though.

 

[Enron]

I don't know how any of you know what is safe to accept as truth

Just have to follow your heart.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yeah I was discussing the Lebanese Civil War with a co-worker today, totally forgot about Black September. Don’t know to much of that either I have to admit. Still though I havent exclusively heard those wars as an argument.

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We can redirect that question to ‘why did Hamas start a war they can’t win’, it doesn’t change much about the situation though.

Hamas can't start a war, they are not a sovereign nation, it would be like saying because your neighborhood houses gangs that kill we should raze it to the ground and make you homeless. No amount of mental gymnastics will get you out of being ok with ethnic cleansing.

 

[U Picciriddu]

Hamas can't start a war, they are not a sovereign nation, it would be like saying because your neighborhood houses gangs that kill we should raze it to the ground and make you homeless. No amount of mental gymnastics will get you out of being ok with ethnic cleansing.

Hamas is a political party who are democratically chosen in 2007, seen as a terrorist organisation by the West. They’re fully in control over Gaza. About two weeks ago they decided to paraglide into a festival, take 200 people as hostages and killing many more in the surrounding villages. As difficult as the situation already was for normal Palestinian civilians, they certainly made the decision to make it even more difficult. This really is an important piece of context which sparked this war. We were in war with IS too and they weren’t a sovereign nation, neither is Boko Haram or Al-Qaida. Of course there’s a lot more in this conflict, but I don’t think that anyone can deny that life in Gaza would’ve been a lot better (or less worse, maybe that covers the ‘normal’ situation there better) if they didn’t paraglided into a festival

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Hamas is a political party who are democratically chosen in 2007, seen as a terrorist organisation by the West. They’re fully in control over Gaza. About two weeks ago they decided to paraglide into a festival, take 200 people as hostages and killing many more in the surrounding villages. As difficult as the situation already was for normal Palestinian civilians, they certainly made the decision to make it even more difficult. This really is an important piece of context which sparked this war. We were in war with IS too and they weren’t a sovereign nation, neither is Boko Haram or Al-Qaida. Of course there’s a lot more in this conflict, but I don’t think that anyone can deny that life in Gaza would’ve been a lot better (or less worse, maybe that covers the ‘normal’ situation there better) if they didn’t paraglided into a festival

More mental gymnastics to defend dehumanizing palestinians and rationalizing ethnic cleansing. It doesn't matter if hamas killed 2 million theres no moral leg to stand on to justify ethnic cleaning, i really can't believe it's that hard to understand.

Also you have not answered a single thing i said. You equate hamas with gaza and Palestinians, are they a sovereign country? It's a rhetorical question. Once you figure out the answer, if you are intellectually honest enough you should figure out the rest on your own.

 

[Post Ironic]

They won't. People who even think their opinion is vindicated will shout it out of rooftops. When they might be wrong they turn silent and move on.

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The minimum then is to apply the same standard of scrutiny and doubt to both side equaly. It's almost never the case evidently

 

[swag]

I’m wondering, why aren’t Egypt, Libanon and Jordan willing to accept any refugees?

Look at Mr. Overjoyed To Have Filthy Immos Cross My Border

 

[Tomice]

More mental gymnastics to defend dehumanizing palestinians and rationalizing ethnic cleansing. It doesn't matter if hamas killed 2 million theres no moral leg to stand on to justify ethnic cleaning, i really can't believe it's that hard to understand.

Also you have not answered a single thing i said. You equate hamas with gaza and Palestinians, are they a sovereign country? It's a rhetorical question. Once you figure out the answer, if you are intellectually honest enough you should figure out the rest on your own.

Talk about mental gymnastics.

 

[Post Ironic]

Looks like there is now video, data, drone footage, and signals intercepts as hard evidence that PIJ/Hamas rocket was what hit the hospital…. but so many still on the “genocidal Israeli attack” bandwagon. Yikes. And the same news orgs and people who with zero info immediately claimed it was an Israeli airstrike gone silent now. Zero retractions.

 

[U Picciriddu]

More mental gymnastics to defend dehumanizing palestinians and rationalizing ethnic cleansing. It doesn't matter if hamas killed 2 million theres no moral leg to stand on to justify ethnic cleaning, i really can't believe it's that hard to understand.

Also you have not answered a single thing i said. You equate hamas with gaza and Palestinians, are they a sovereign country? It's a rhetorical question. Once you figure out the answer, if you are intellectually honest enough you should figure out the rest on your own.

Hamas isn’t internationally recognised as a sovereign country but that doesn’t mean that you can’t be in war with them. They are a political party in control of Gaza though, as I said in my previous post. Or please rephrase in easier English if you feel that my answer doesn’t cover your question, because if it doesn’t cover I’m not sure if I fully understand you, and please share your thought process behind it.

 

[Post Ironic]

Well would ya look at this:

While we continue to collect information, our current assessment, based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information, is that Israel is not responsible for the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday," NSC spokesperson Adrienne Watson told NBC News.

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-hos...ave-been-caused-by-israel-says-biden-12986850

I hope there will be worldwide protests against Hamas/PIJ terrorists bombing a hospital if that turns out to be what happened…

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Hamas isn’t internationally recognised as a sovereign country but that doesn’t mean that you can’t be in war with them. They are a political party in control of Gaza though, as I said in my previous post. Or please rephrase in easier English if you feel that my answer doesn’t cover your question, because if it doesn’t cover I’m not sure if I fully understand you, and please share your thought process behind it.

There's no war. There's occupier and occupied. Palestine is not a sovereign country because israel is occupying their territory. In a state of occupation, there's no such thing as refugees. If you leave you are never coming back. It's called ethnic cleansing.

 

[Bjerknes]

OMG the Jews are now facing their own January 6th!

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/pro-pal...amas-war-capitol-hill-jewish-voices-for-peace