Israeli-Palestinian conflict (58 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Jun 16, 2020
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It's been their M.O for years. All death numbers in any conflict with gaza only comes directly from their ministry of health, no independent observers allowed. All news agency in the strip are fed information by Hamas, they have no agency or access to any other source, reporter routinely get kicked out if they don't tow a certain line.

They have been caught lying countless times already. Double counting dead, recycling dead bodies, counting militants as civilian and miscalsfying under 18 militants as children.

With that said, brining that up is usually pointless as Israel is directly responsible for enough of numbers.
All of this doesn’t surprise me, but it really works both ways. Just like the 40 babies when the war started. Controlling the narrative by any means is part of war, it’s within the interests of both sides to damage the prestige of the other side.

In Israel’s or Ukraine’s defense at least they don’t want to have their relationships with the West damaged, so they’re somewhat limited on how they can fight.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,178
A lot of people need to be very embarrassed they bought into the Hamas misinformation about the hospital strike.

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While the daylight pictures do seem to show a lesser of a strike, possibly pointing to propaganda from Hamas, we are now hearing that anyone that thought it could have been the IDF is an antisemite and on the side of Hamas. So the propaganda works both ways and literally never ends.

I say just glass parking lot all of Israel, Gaza, parts of Syria, and just be done with it all.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
All israeli outlets, what a coincidence ey
I am no ballistic expert, but i have seen this movie before
I mean that’s fine to not be certain yet. But as I said yesterday, we all should have been waiting for more info instead of the “Israel genociding Gaza” bandwagon without any hard info.

I don’t know how so many who claim the mainstream media is fake just immediately trusted their initial reports here, and then trusted Hamas, and jumped on the anything reported different must be Israeli misinformation/propaganda. Are we suggesting Hamas/PIJ/etc don’t use propaganda and constantly lie? C’mon lol

Also, according to above the Pentagon confirmed it was a failed PIJ rocket.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
While the daylight pictures do seem to show a lesser of a strike, possibly pointing to propaganda from Hamas, we are now hearing that anyone that thought it could have been the IDF is an antisemite and on the side of Hamas. So the propaganda works both ways and literally never ends.

I say just glass parking lot all of Israel, Gaza, parts of Syria, and just be done with it all.
Oh for sure. I think my point was that a lot of people just immediately said it must be Israel without a second thought and are still doubling down on that as though Hamas isn’t also spewing out propaganda 24/7.

The anti-semitism claims from Israel have always been absolute nonsense and the reason why I think Israel should have been facing repercussions for the shit they were doing in the West Bank for years now.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,840
I mean that’s fine to not be certain yet. But as I said yesterday, we all should have been waiting for more info instead of the “Israel genociding Gaza” bandwagon without any hard info.

I don’t know how so many who claim the mainstream media is fake just immediately trusted their initial reports here, and then trusted Hamas, and jumped on the anything reported different must be Israeli misinformation/propaganda. Are we suggesting Hamas/PIJ/etc don’t use propaganda and constantly lie? C’mon lol

Also, according to above the Pentagon confirmed it was a failed PIJ rocket.
I am as sure they use propaganda as i am of israels capability of killing civilians indiscriminately.

Can you speak or read Arabic?
There's a translate feature :D but yes i can
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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All israeli outlets, what a coincidence ey
I am no ballistic expert, but i have seen this movie before
Word also has it that Shireen Abu Akleh was a suicide. :smoke:

I don't know how any of you know what is safe to accept as truth
Always the first casualty of war.

The truth i accept is the only crime in a war is to lose.


Hey @Turk_Bianconero pls discuss

Those gigalos aren't gonna pay themselves.
 

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