Israeli-Palestinian conflict (68 Viewers)

[Salvo]

 

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[Luca Marrone]

Jump out of a plane, and hit a rock please.

Such a nice guy. May god bless you. I'm still waiting for a normal answer.

 

[Klovn]

It was a normal answer.

 

[Nzoric]

the US is the single reason this situation is so messed up, it has blocked almost a 1000 UN resolutions against israel and allowed them free reign to do what they want, it can even be argued it went to war for the jewish state in a few instances. The only real hope in my opinion is the emergence of a strong pole on the other side, china russia brazil etc... to rectify the balance. Israel will never allow the arabs to have their state otherwise.

Fantastic post

 

[GordoDeCentral]

try to watch this

 

[Nzoric]

"The holocaust, the worst genocide in human history"

Not sure if serious or :undecide:

 

[Salvo]

try to watch this

Ill try bro.

 

[Luca Marrone]

Nzoric, are you a troll or something? you compering 6 millions that were slaughtered based on the only fact that they were Jews? probably the shit that goes on in Syria is also more severe than the Holocaust. What a joke. You can always admit that you're a Jew hater and we will close this "argument". And I thought that my Christian people love to hate Jews... Go to complain about the situation in Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, the fact that Muslim slaughters people just because they insulting the dear Muhammad. Show me a place that Christians or Jewish killing Muslims because they insulated god or Jesus. Religion of peace they say. How hypocrite can you be?

BTW: www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbuM91PeSOs

What a hilarious joke.Start 0:44. "Palestinians" they said.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Religion of peace does not mean they will pretend like it's raining when somebody spit on their face.

 

[Ahmed]

Yahudi lovers trying to change the topic and making it about Islam instead of the inhuman occupation and genocide.

nice try.

 

[Osman]

try to watch this

Thanks for the link Not much new, but quite interesting still.

 

[Martin]

so we went from judging the actions of a state, black and white, to generalizing about a diverse billion people who speak hundreds of languages? Lol as for you treq, you seem to me the only one real confirmed brainwash here, your ignorance of the actions of most and fixation on the actions of the ones you mention is proof enough.
Israel has no legs to stand on in an ethical debate, their recourse? force, propaganda, and appeal to bias against their enemies, I welcome anyone who wants to challenge this.

Luca does make an interesting point, though. As far as outrage that hits our ears here in the "west" it is almost exclusively limited to the "the outside enemy" ie. Israel or anyone challenging the religion. Meanwhile there are countless atrocities in places like Syria or Bahrain that never provoke the kind of large scale populist protests that a few cartoons did. So what does that mean? It means that either news reporting in the "west" is unforgivably ideological (but also incredibly consistent across various countries for some strange reason) or these atrocities just don't cause the same kind of mobilization.

 

[Nzoric]

Nzoric, are you a troll or something? you compering 6 millions that were slaughtered based on the only fact that they were Jews? probably the shit that goes on in Syria is also more severe than the Holocaust. .

No. The Slavic genocide in WW2 in terms of numbers, was much more severe than the jewish Holocaust. But you can't say that today because you'll be labelled as an anti-semite. Imagine the amount of ridicule I would receive if I to this day still hung on to the fact that close to 32 million slavs died in WW2 and therefore I should get special treatment today.
I'm no anti-semite, I'm just vehemently against the state of Israel in it's current form. It's the closest I get to being militant. I can't believe that systematic opression of an ethnic group is being tolerated in the West, furthermore it weakens our moral high ground and argues the case should Europe be allowed to intervene anywhere in the world if we are not coherent in our stance against opression?

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The amount of ideological or religious crimes in Europe is overwhelmingly European and not Muslim. I don't see your point.

 

[Mirko]

Interesting video:


The root of the problem is the British, thinking that they know better than the local population. But the Palestinian leaders are largely responsible for the mess they are in now. They were offered land on multiple occasions but always rejected. I understand them on one hand, but the compromises offered were generous and Israelis were backed by the international community. Israel now has an upper hand, and after almost a century of terroists attack against them will surely never be as generous as they were in the past.

Also Palestinas thought neigbouring Arab countries were their friends, but they suffered under them. They should stop thinking that. Every country has its own agenda.

 

[Martin]

And now for something even more fun.

 

[Osman]

Whats new? Its not like he and his kind not been obvious about this, virtually since the creation of Israel.

 

[Hust]

Luca does make an interesting point, though. As far as outrage that hits our ears here in the "west" it is almost exclusively limited to the "the outside enemy" ie. Israel or anyone challenging the religion. Meanwhile there are countless atrocities in places like Syria or Bahrain that never provoke the kind of large scale populist protests that a few cartoons did. So what does that mean? It means that either news reporting in the "west" is unforgivably ideological (but also incredibly consistent across various countries for some strange reason) or these atrocities just don't cause the same kind of mobilization.

waiting for someone to expand on this. ^


Also, just out of curiosity...being all friends here D) but why is it so easy for members to get to a point where belittling and name-calling is OK? Obviously coming to a common agreement just isn't going to happen, but is it necessary to put people down? Sure there are some peeps here that have experienced more or even read a few more books then the next guy but is it really justified to flat out insult?

 

[Lapa]

What's wrong with people who live there? It's always a fucking conflict over there. Just saying.

 

[ALC]

What's wrong with people who live there? It's always a fucking conflict over there. Just saying.

religion. that's always the common denominator. religion.

 

[Raz]

waiting for someone to expand on this. ^


Also, just out of curiosity...being all friends here D) but why is it so easy for members to get to a point where belittling and name-calling is OK? Obviously coming to a common agreement just isn't going to happen, but is it necessary to put people down? Sure there are some peeps here that have experienced more or even read a few more books then the next guy but is it really justified to flat out insult?

This is what you get, when these kind of stuff is tolerated for a long time, people get used to it and try to push the boundries even more.