Iraqi shot dead attempting goal (11 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

Once you start murdering over a million people, what's the point in the number, IMO. He's the American Mao.

 

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[Vinny Del Pogba]

What about the 1.5 million Iraqis killed throughout this faux war?

Or how about the 15 other Iraqis killed on the same day as this footballer?

Oh, I remember now. He's a footballer.

I'm not say8ing Bush doesn't have alot of blood on his hands. But Mao, Hitler and Stalin killed tens of millions of people.

And George Bush isn't making anyone strap explosives onto their bodies and walk into crowds of pilgrims and blow themselves up. He is responsible for the deaths in Iraq committed by American forces, not those crazy fuckers who use terrorism in response. That was their choice.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

No he's not, nor is he the American Stalin, Hitler, Polpot or anyone else.

They killed mostly their own countrymen.

And one million is very different from one billion.

The numbers always matter.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I'm not say8ing Bush doesn't have alot of blood on his hands. But Mao, Hitler and Stalin killed tens of millions of people.

And George Bush isn't making anyone strap explosives onto their bodies and walk into crowds of pilgrims and blow themselves up. He is responsible for the deaths in Iraq committed by American forces, not those crazy fuckers who use terrorism in response. That was their choice.

That's what i'm saying.

I'm not saying by any measure the man is innocent by any means, I just think it's a jump in comparison.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

Once you start murdering over a million people, what's the point in the number, IMO. He's the American Mao.

lol. The American Mao?

Mao killed tens of millions of his own people.

Bush has started an unpolular war which, on the grand scale of things, pales in comparison to the wars persecuted by Stalin, Mao, Hitler and others.

I can't believe I've run across someone that would make me defend Bush. lol

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm not say8ing Bush doesn't have alot of blood on his hands. But Mao, Hitler and Stalin killed tens of millions of people.

And George Bush isn't making anyone strap explosives onto their bodies and walk into crowds of pilgrims and blow themselves up. He is responsible for the deaths in Iraq committed by American forces, not those crazy fuckers who use terrorism in response. That was their choice.

The blood of the soldiers is indeed in the hands of Bush because the war shouldn't have been fought anyway. His decisions lead to their deaths, and for what? Oil and other bullshit.

So yes, the blood is on the hands of the Bush administration. The "terrorists" are just defending their territory.

 

[Alen]

And anyone of you knows for how many deaths was Stalin responsible?
Lets say ... 3 million is my number.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

lol. The American Mao?

Mao killed tens of millions of his own people.

Bush has started an unpolular war which, on the grand scale of things, pales in comparison to the wars persecuted by Stalin, Mao, Hitler and others.

I can't believe I've run across someone that would make me defend Bush. lol

You aren't the first one to think that.

 

[swag]

And anyone of you knows for how many deaths was Stalin responsible?
Lets say ... 3 million is my number.

Including his own people, I've heard estimates range from 12-20MM.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

And anyone of you knows for how many deaths was Stalin responsible?
Lets say ... 3 million is my number.

At least 6.

 

[Alen]

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Bush has started an unpolular war which, on the grand scale of things, pales in comparison to the wars persecuted by Stalin.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Including his own people, I've heard estimates range from 12-20MM.

From Wiki:

Accordingly, if famine victims are included, a minimum of around 10 million deaths — 6 million minimum from famine and 4 million minimum from other causes — are attributable to the regime[80], with a number of recent historians suggesting a likely total of around 20 million, citing much higher victim totals from executions, gulags, deportations and other causes.[81] Adding 6–8 million famine victims to Erlikman's estimates above, for example, would yield a total of between 15 and 17 million victims.

 

[Alen]

Including his own people, I've heard estimates range from 12-20MM.

They even go as far as 50-60m. And when they say 20m, at least 60% of them are people who died in famines.
However you put it he was responsible for millions of deaths, although not even close to what the west says, and as Andy said, i really don't see a point in a number when you talk about millions.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

The blood of the soldiers is indeed in the hands of Bush because the war shouldn't have been fought anyway. His decisions lead to their deaths, and for what? Oil and other bullshit.

So yes, the blood is on the hands of the Bush administration. The "terrorists" are just defending their territory.

The spark was 9/11, which was not defending their territory.

Also, you have to remember that no one was drafted into the military and made to fight.

They all joined out of choice.

 

[Bjerknes]

You see, people in the west will naturally hold their own people in higher esteem, no matter if they're good or bad people.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

They even go as far as 50-60m. And when they say 20m, at least 60% of them are people who died in famines.
However you put it he was responsible for millions of deaths, although not even close to what the west says, and as Andy said, i really don't see a point in a number when you talk about millions.

With what I stated above, if you subtract the 6-8 million from famine, then you still have 7-9 million.

 

[Bjerknes]

The spark was 9/11, which was not defending their territory.

Also, you have to remember that no one was drafted into the military and made to fight.

They all joined out of choice.

9/11 was the work of Al Qaeda, a CIA operation and thus our own doing.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

You see, people in the west will naturally hold their own people in higher esteem, no matter if they're good or bad people.

That's not true, that's an assumption and a generalization. It's just factual that Stalin, Mao, and Hitler did more to harm their civilizations and populations.

Again, let me reiterate, I'm not trying to say Bush is the man or didn't do anything wrong, it's just not a comparison.

You know I hate Bush.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

9/11 was the work of Al Qaeda, a CIA operation and thus our own doing.

Sell that propaganda to the insurgents.

Wait wait wait, scratch that, the insurgents are probably FBI.....

 

[Bjerknes]

Sell that propaganda to the insurgents.

Wait wait wait, scratch that, the insurgents are probably FBI.....

Again with the laughing. No point in discussing anything with you.