Iraqi shot dead attempting goal (1 Viewer)

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Vinny Del Pogba
Jul 10, 2006
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    Ah, but that's a different case entirely. It's about being able to make a distinction between good and evil, about being able to understand what your actions might cause. In fact it's even worse than I said before: a lawyer could actually plead temporary insanity, which would get him off the hook in a civilised country.
    I find it hard to believe he didn't realize the potential outcome of shooting someone in the head.

    I doubt any civilized country and any competent judge or jury would buy a football game as reason for temporary insanity. Stranger things have happened I guess, but it is a long shot at best.

    If the suspected shooter has a serious history of mental illness then an insanity defense would carry some weight. I don't know anything about the man's past, though. Maybe more will come out as time passes.
     
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    Vinny Del Pogba
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    Another problem I see with an insanity defense is that the article said the suspected shooter was a supporter of the victim's rival team. That shows motive. When there is a clear motive, insanity is much harder to prove.

    He was shooting a rival player which leads me to believe he was aware of what he was doing and had criminal intent in doing so.

    This may all be moot, since I have no clue how the Iraqi justice system handles insanity defenses.

    I think this guy will end up dancing on the end of rope.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    I usually oppose execution, but I am with Hambon this time, and idiot like this person doesn't even deserve to get jailed. What the fuck was he thinking, that he was hunting a pig in the woods??
    Look, you're either for or against the death penalty. You can't change your opinion in particular cases.
     

    Snoop

    Sabet is a nasty virgin
    Oct 2, 2001
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    It's not that easy, sure it is easy to debate and write blah blah. But there should always be exceptions to deal with idiots like these. I am with human rights and all, but cases like these should always be looked differently. He was killed for a stupid match ffs.

    For a retarded reason like this, killing someone because of a football match, tell me, how would you punish this criminal? equally to those who steal? put them next to other criminals? How safe the others will be? tell me, How would you punish Hitler or other war criminals, dictators? By putting them in a nice room, and serving them food for free? Seriously man, easy with that "Intellectual" speech, get real!
     

    Snoop

    Sabet is a nasty virgin
    Oct 2, 2001
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    The way you put it in one line is pure art Bes, the more I read your posts the more I want to have sex with you on your lawn chair :touched:
     

    Hambon

    Lion of the Desert
    Apr 22, 2005
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    It's not that easy, sure it is easy to debate and write blah blah. But there should always be exceptions to deal with idiots like these. I am with human rights and all, but cases like these should always be looked differently. He was killed for a stupid match ffs.

    For a retarded reason like this, killing someone because of a football match, tell me, how would you punish this criminal? equally to those who steal? put them next to other criminals? How safe the others will be? tell me, How would you punish Hitler or other war criminals, dictators? By putting them in a nice room, and serving them food for free? Seriously man, easy with that "Intellectual" speech, get real!
    Well said :tup:

    People** who commit these sorts of crimes and other atrocities really put themselves under the guillotine... too bad the system these days allows for so many loopholes....sad..

    **sane ..so we dont get into another "intellectual" debate :D
    i don't think there is anything wrong with the death penalty, if a shitload of people saw you kill someone
    Right on bro! and not necessarily a shitload a couple witnesses should be enough to put away these fucks...

    The way you put it in one line is pure art Bes, the more I read your posts the more I want to have sex with you on your lawn chair :touched:
    Ménage à trois on that chair....:lol:
     
    Mar 14, 2004
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    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=628629&sec=world&cc=5901

    BAGHDAD -- Police say an Iraqi soccer player has been shot dead just as he was about to kick what could have been the tying goal in a weekend game south of Baghdad.

    Police Maj. Muthanna Khalid says a striker from the Buhairat amateur team was facing only the goalie during a Sunday match in Hillah when a supporter of the rival Sinjar club shot him in the head in the final minute of play.

    Sinjar was leading 1-0 when the shooting occurred. Khalid said a spectator was arrested.

    More Iraqis are turning out for sports events now that security is improving. Major matches in Baghdad are heavily guarded but security in amateur games in smaller cities is often lax.

    and that's why we love middle east :tup:
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    So have I, but I guess that's because people like to compare any intelligent but arrogant motherfucker with seemingly unresolved social issues with me.
     
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