Iraqi shot dead attempting goal (2 Viewers)

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Guardian

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Dec 28, 2005
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Sad to hear that. Rest in peace.
I just realized that there are more important things than my empty refrigerator.
I definitely won't visit Iraq for the next 10 years.
 

Seven

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Jun 25, 2003
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Going by common sense: yes.

Legally: not necessarily.
Yes, it does necessarily make him mentally insane. If a man is crazy enough to shoot a player because he's about to score, you cannot seriously expect him to have full knowledge of what is right and wrong. And that is what you judge in a court of law. I know lawyers might plead differently, but the man's obviously insane.
 

only-juve

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R.I.P ....

From watching all the killings that been happening in Iraq in the past 20 or so years some people did become emotionless. I've seen people killing other people for the sake of it in the past few years. Can't really see any real hope for the country....
 
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Vinny Del Pogba
Jul 10, 2006
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    Yes, it does necessarily make him mentally insane. If a man is crazy enough to shoot a player because he's about to score, you cannot seriously expect him to have full knowledge of what is right and wrong. And that is what you judge in a court of law. I know lawyers might plead differently, but the man's obviously insane.
    If it turns out he shot the guy while he was buck ass naked, smeared in peanut butter with three golf balls jammed up his ass, then I would say yes, he was insane.

    But he was likely just one of the many people in Iraq who think they can solve any issue with violence.

    You could use your reasoning to say that anyone who kills a person for any reason other than self defense is crazy. That is not the kind of pandora's box the civilized world needs opened.
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    If it turns out he shot the guy while he was buck ass naked, smeared in peanut butter with three golf balls jammed up his ass, then I would say yes, he was insane.

    But he was likely just one of the many people in Iraq who think they can solve any issue with violence.

    You could use your reasoning to say that anyone who kills a person for any reason other than self defense is crazy. That is not the kind of pandora's box the civilized world needs opened.
    Well said, Juve Vinny.
     

    Seven

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    read the post again, that is the only reason of said differentiation
    A lawyer pleads differently because of his goals. That doesn't mean he's after the truth. The public opinion doesn't accept insanity that easily so it is made difficult to be declared insane. Let's take the example of Josef Fritzl: the psychiatrists said he wasn't legally insane, even though they did find several very serious mental conditions. Which is as much as saying he is insane, but you want to punish him harder.
     

    Seven

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    If it turns out he shot the guy while he was buck ass naked, smeared in peanut butter with three golf balls jammed up his ass, then I would say yes, he was insane.

    But he was likely just one of the many people in Iraq who think they can solve any issue with violence.


    You could use your reasoning to say that anyone who kills a person for any reason other than self defense is crazy. That is not the kind of pandora's box the civilized world needs opened.
    Ah, but that's a different case entirely. It's about being able to make a distinction between good and evil, about being able to understand what your actions might cause. In fact it's even worse than I said before: a lawyer could actually plead temporary insanity, which would get him off the hook in a civilised country.
     

    Azzurri7

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    Dec 16, 2003
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    Why wait until he was about to score, then?
    It's not about scoring, he had his chance and he took him down.

    It's not the first time that it happens, the reason behind this is to simply scare the players/stop the matches/ and to remain without activities but war.
     

    Red

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    Yes, it does necessarily make him mentally insane. If a man is crazy enough to shoot a player because he's about to score, you cannot seriously expect him to have full knowledge of what is right and wrong. And that is what you judge in a court of law. I know lawyers might plead differently, but the man's obviously insane.
    I would suggest that by that logic, there would be a pretty even split between murderers going to jail and going to a mental asylum.

    It's not about scoring, he had his chance and he took him down.

    It's not the first time that it happens, the reason behind this is to simply scare the players/stop the matches/ and to remain without activities but war.
    You may be right.

    Having not seen the incident, it is all guesswork.
     

    Byrone

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    Dec 19, 2005
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    Messed up shit really but the guy probably has squat to look foward to & his favourite is his main source of pleasure.People have killed for minor issues like this.

    What image you're exactly talking about? :howler:

    As for the punishment, the Iraqi reporter who threw his shoes at Bush sentenced to three years in jail so I see a one-two years imprisonment coming for this one :D
    That reporter has some balls & ive watched the video over & over.I just love the look on Bush's face.Pure gold.:D
     
    Jan 7, 2004
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    A lawyer pleads differently because of his goals. That doesn't mean he's after the truth. The public opinion doesn't accept insanity that easily so it is made difficult to be declared insane. Let's take the example of Josef Fritzl: the psychiatrists said he wasn't legally insane, even though they did find several very serious mental conditions. Which is as much as saying he is insane, but you want to punish him harder.
    maybe that's what this fucker here deserves as well
     

    Seven

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    Jun 25, 2003
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    maybe that's what this fucker here deserves as well
    TBH I'm not even sure if you do punish him harder, the public sees it that way though. In reality I can think of few things that are worse than having to go to a mental asylum. And to top it off it basically means that they can stretch the penalty forever if they want to.
     
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