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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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That's true. But so too is Saddam, he isn't half as bad as those 3 if we're talking numbers.
I agree, the only thing that binds him with the other three is that he, like them, killed a number of his own people. Which is something one might accuse Bush of, but it will be hard to prove. Still, in sheer numbers Saddam cannot be put in the same category IMO.
 

Fred

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I agree, the only thing that binds him with the other three is that he, like them, killed a number of his own people. Which is something one might accuse Bush of, but it will be hard to prove. Still, in sheer numbers Saddam cannot be put in the same category IMO.
But is the difference really that significant if he killed his own people or he killed others. I mean killing is killing.

One could also argue that if Bush was in the same situation as Stalin ie in a totalitarian state. You never know what he could do, i mean he's shown that he is capable of killing people, so you never know.
 

only-juve

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That's true. But so too is Saddam, he isn't half as bad as those 3 especially if we're talking numbers.
You're joking right !! The mother fucker killed hundred of thousand of people without even thinking twice. The least that saddam deserved is a death penalty he was lucky that the americans had him in their hands and not the Iraqi's (we'd eat him alive the fucker)..........
 
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    You're joking right !! The mother fucker killed hundred of thousand of people without even thinking twice. The least that saddam deserved is a death penalty he was lucky that the americans had him in their hands and not the Iraqi's (we'd eat him alive the fucker)..........
    The Iraqis did prosecute, convict and execute Saddam.
     

    only-juve

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    The Iraqis did prosecute, convict and execute Saddam.
    Yes but the americans treated him well while he was in prison. From a humanitarian point of view they did the right thing but he didn't deserve such treatment. The guy invented ways in killing people that probably no one on earth have even thought about.

    One of our neighbors in Iraq back in the 80's just said back then that the Iraqi-iranian war was wrong and unjust, the next day he was fuckin burned alive in the middle of the street (just for something he said). I would go as far as saying that the mother fucker is even more brutal than hitler or Stalin .....
     
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    Yes but the americans treated him well while he was in prison. From a humanitarian point of view they did the right thing but he didn't deserve such treatment. The guy invented ways in killing people that probably no one on earth have even thought about.

    One of our neighbors in Iraq back in the 80's just said back then that the Iraqi-iranian war was wrong and unjust, the next day he was fuckin burned alive in the middle of the street (just for something he said). I would go as far as saying that the mother fucker is even more brutal than hitler or Stalin .....
    I see. I saw a documentary on Saddam once that said that he modeled himself on Stalin.
     

    only-juve

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    I see. I saw a documentary on Saddam once that said that he modeled himself on Stalin.
    He did so many horrible things, every day their digging graves for the people who he killed during he's presidency. One of he's son's once brought a lion and he fade living people to that Lion and he would watch them and make jokes about it. They don't just kill, they actually enjoy killing......
     
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    Vinny Del Pogba
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    There is no doubt they were wicked people who deserved their fate. I wasn't really against the invasion, I just thought the months immediately after the government fell were completely botched and led to thousands of unnecessary deaths.
     

    Fred

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    You're joking right !! The mother fucker killed hundred of thousand of people without even thinking twice. The least that saddam deserved is a death penalty he was lucky that the americans had him in their hands and not the Iraqi's (we'd eat him alive the fucker)..........
    Oh i'm not saying otherwise at all.

    I never thought you were an Arab\Iraqi :shocked:

    I see. I saw a documentary on Saddam once that said that he modeled himself on Stalin.
    Heard that one too.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
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    There is no doubt they were wicked people who deserved their fate. I wasn't really against the invasion, I just thought the months immediately after the government fell were completely botched and led to thousands of unnecessary deaths.
    You should have been. The US had no grounds whatsoever.
     

    Azzurri7

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    No one, it's not like the World's strongest country will take a green light from anyone and ask them if they can do this or that.

    Once you're the most powerful man/country on earth, you're not going to take no green light from no one.

    Russia and China or you name it would have done the same were they in USA shoes. This is how politics in particular goes, it's wrong but very normal or predictable to be more correct.
     
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    Who exactly gave the US the right to police the world?
    Invading Iraq does not equal policing the world.

    The cease fire ending the first gulf war and the US Congress approval of force to oust Hussein and the UN allowing it to happen gave the US what it needed to invade.

    If Hussein had lived up to the cease fire agreement which he signed this war would have never happened. So, it really comes down to him. But of course no one seems to want to hold tyrannical dictators accountable, for some reason.
     

    Zé Tahir

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    No one, it's not like the World's strongest country will take a green light from anyone and ask them if they can do this or that.

    Once you're the most powerful man/country on earth, you're not going to take no green light from no one.

    Russia and China or you name it would have done the same were they in USA shoes. This is how politics in particular goes, it's wrong but very normal or predictable to be more correct.
    :tup:
     
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