Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (12 Viewers)

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Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
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this guy who Abel brought to my attention best answers the relation between the radicals and islam.

Careful bro, this guy is a joke, he is professional at twisting words. In this video he said words that non of us disagree with, but I can show you many other videos where he insulted the Prophet's wife and his companions.

He never studied under an scholar, his scholar was books, and like the big scholars used to say: "Who his scholar are books then his mistakes will be more than his senses".
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
I agree with you.

Christians believe in God, follow Christ BUT worship God. I think "worshipping & following the prophet" instead of what God is actually teaching is where issues arise. All the Prophet had to do was write down what God was telling him. All we need to know, is in the book, correct?
It's the total opposite Cam, the main contention with Christians by Muslims is the fact that Christians worship a prophet as a God or son of God/part of the Holy trinity. The issue is as said opposite, you admire and listen to the message of a prophet but you don't worship him. Mohammed isn't divine except being chosen by God as the last prophet.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
It's the total opposite Cam, the main contention with Christians by Muslims is the fact that Christians worship a prophet as a God or son of God/part of the Holy trinity. The issue is as said opposite, you admire and listen to the message of a prophet but you don't worship him. Mohammed isn't divine except being by God chosen as the last prophet.
I agree with the Christian part as well, I didn't think my post out very well did I?

I don't think Jesus was God, rather, divine intervention in his miracle birth. Its complicated, my view, but I believe in Christ just differently. And not speaking for ALL Muslims, rather some around here I've heard give an especially high amount of worship to the Prophet.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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Imagine, in he US: Baptists turn against Protestants for their lack of singing for worship, but the Catholics call too much singing false worship instead of focused prayer and in this heating war of religion non-denominationals are crucified for denying lables thus are false Christians.

:howler:

Oh, Evangelicals as "born again" attack Catholics for praying to the Virgin Mary instead of laying their burdens at the cross.

:dielaugh:
Ever heard of the reformation wars? Cause that'spretty much what happened there.

Many of the ancestors of US protestants fled from religious persecution in Europe actually.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Ever heard of the reformation wars? Cause that'spretty much what happened there.

Many of the ancestors of US protestants fled from religious persecution in Europe actually.
Indeed, I have.

Reading this currently, gives a brief insight to it.

 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
It's semantics, you hold messenger of God in extremely high esteem but worship is only reserved for the almighty. No Muslim does salat and prays to and worships the prophet. While Christians, mainly partly do to Jesus.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,757
It's semantics, you hold messenger of God in extremely high esteem but worship is only reserved for the almighty. No Muslim does salat and prays to and worships the prophet. While Christians, mainly partly do to Jesus.
Except most Christians don't see Jesus as a prophet.

There is no Islamic way of murder. Homicide, school shootings and shit like that is part of your culture, don't try to import it elsewhere.
Exactly. Which is why I don't understand why you rejected the person's Muslim claim on the basis of a tattoo rather than murder. To me, that priority order is all wrong.
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    I came to read anything about politics in the last three pages, but found it has nothing to do with that.

    Guys, please, can you take your religion discussion to another thread?

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    Anyway, back to our topic, one of the countries that are taking part in the attacks on north Syria is Bahrain.

    Today the foreign minister of that tiny country said: "There is no difference between ISIS and Hezbollah". He did not explain why his country is shelling ISIS and not shelling Hazbollah though...

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    Since the attacks started against IS north of Syria, 200 new fighters from one city, Aleppo, decided to join IS
     

    Osman

    Koul Khara!
    Aug 30, 2002
    61,499
    Except most Christians don't see Jesus as a prophet.



    Exactly. Which is why I don't understand why you rejected the person's Muslim claim on the basis of a tattoo rather than murder. To me, that priority order is all wrong.
    Exactly (though some do smaller dominations do) , I'm not saying otherwise, just trying to reason with Cam that he had it bit off (regarding Islam / mohammed). There is a distinction though, they don't see him as just a prophet, but more then that. But doesn't make him Iess of divine deity to have been a prophet (he referred to himself as such in Bible in his teachings), since he was spreading and preaching the word of God he is one too either way in technical since of the word, before the resurrection and et al.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    Britain decided today to join the international coalition that is attacking IS. What do you think of this?
     

    Tevez10

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    Aug 29, 2013
    927
    Like I said before, without a real threat to the US, I don't really care what happens to Syria. But in weighing the possibilities, Assad is by far the better option. It's common sense, really.
    If u don't care about Syria then u shouldn't be choosing between the two. It's not like ISIS has done anything to threaten US! Maybe it threats the US policies in Iraq, all the investment in Army and everything else, is going down the drain.
     

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