Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (21 Viewers)

[ReBeL]

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[ZoSo]

If you keep posting these ISIS will be in the right eventually

 

[Hust]

Cronios

 

[Bjerknes]

If you keep posting these ISIS will be in the right eventually

 

[Hust]

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beheaded-oklahoma-workplace-144459291.html

And so it begins...

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

https://news.yahoo.com/police-woman-beheaded-oklahoma-workplace-144459291.html

And so it begins...

Events like that are common for American society but what does it have to do with Iraq?

 

[Mohad]

@Hustini

 

[swag]

I wonder if Muhammad ever had any clue that followers in his name would one day include nut jobs who behead others in grocery stores. Perhaps he might have overlooked the evils of a hierarchical authority within Islam knowing that...

 

[swag]

Events like that are common for American society but what does it have to do with Iraq?

Beheading somebody because they refused his efforts to convert to his form of Islam, for one.

 

[Hust]

Events like that are common for American society but what does it have to do with Iraq?

Probably more than what your pearl harbor or ebola comments did...

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Beheading somebody because they refused his efforts to convert to his form of Islam, for one.

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I wonder if Muhammad ever had any clue that followers in his name would one day include nut jobs who behead others in grocery stores. Perhaps he might have overlooked the evils of a hierarchical authority within Islam knowing that...

See this is one of the things I talk about frequently with my wife about...I believe in God, the prophets, etc. BUT, if Islam was truly God, written down in a book, don't you think He would have seen this coming ESPECIALLY since the Quaran is supposed to transgress time? That's the problem with the extremists, they translate their book as it MUST be followed as it was back then, rather than in accordance to modern times.

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@Hustini

The piano monologue is awesome

 

[swag]

See this is one of the things I talk about frequently with my wife about...I believe in God, the prophets, etc. BUT, if Islam was truly God, written down in a book, don't you think He would have seen this coming ESPECIALLY since the Quaran is supposed to transgress time? That's the problem with the extremists, they translate their book as it MUST be followed as it was back then, rather than in accordance to modern times.

However you might interpret Muhammad's infallibility or not, you gotta admit that perversions of his teachings at this grand of scale is nothing short of a screw up ... not unlike Christianity's screw ups that lead to the medieval Crusades.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

The Associated Press is not naming because he has not been charged, has multiple, apparently religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

Even in disinformation, there has to be some dignity. How can there be a religious tattoo when tattoo is forbidden in Islam?

 

[Bisco]

The Associated Press is not naming because he has not been charged, has multiple, apparently religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

Even in disinformation, there has to be some dignity. How can there be a religious tattoo when tattoo is forbidden in Islam?

yes tat's are not allowed in islam but so is drinking and sex out of wedlock but that doesn't stop many people from doing them.... i have two syrian friends who are muslims and have a tattoo with religious words written so no it's not written in stone turk.

 

[Hust]

However you might interpret Muhammad's infallibility or not, you gotta admit that perversions of his teachings at this grand of scale is nothing short of a screw up ... not unlike Christianity's screw ups that lead to the medieval Crusades.

Indeed. That's the major problem with religion and when I had discussions with my wife before we got married (she is Muslim) I had to be able to "understand" some things before I would be OK with marrying her because I'll admit, Islam was COMPLETELY new to me. But there is one thing that no one can provide an answer for me is, that if this was the true indefinite word of God written down never to be altered and defy time forever, then how can something like this happen? Wouldn't you have thought God would have figured this into his teaching? I'm either missing something or something isn't adding up.

Second, Christianity brought on the crusades 1300 years ago...over a thousand years ago. This religion was written almost that long ago, so why is it Christians progressed away from that violence and a majority of Muslims did as well, but a few select in the region still live like they did back then.

I'm fairly certain God would have seen this coming and made measures to avoid it or advise against it.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

yes tat's are not allowed in islam but so is drinking and sex out of wedlock but that doesn't stop many people from doing them.... i have two syrian friends who are muslims and have a tattoo with religious words written so no it's not written in stone turk.

Then they should stop being jerks and insulting Prophet and his followers because these things are happening not because of Islam, vice-versa, because of the people who turn their back to Islam.

 

[Hust]

The Associated Press is not naming because he has not been charged, has multiple, apparently religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

Even in disinformation, there has to be some dignity. How can there be a religious tattoo when tattoo is forbidden in Islam?

Because maybe he converted after the tatoo.
Rape is illegal in Islam, is it not? Use that same argument for folks in your region.

 

[swag]

The Associated Press is not naming because he has not been charged, has multiple, apparently religious tattoos, including one referencing Jesus and one in Arabic that means "peace be with you."

Even in disinformation, there has to be some dignity. How can there be a religious tattoo when tattoo is forbidden in Islam?

So you're hung up on the tattoo and not the beheading I see.

May as well condemn a man for his lack of beard rather on what he's done for his community.

Indeed. That's the major problem with religion and when I had discussions with my wife before we got married (she is Muslim) I had to be able to "understand" some things before I would be OK with marrying her because I'll admit, Islam was COMPLETELY new to me. But there is one thing that no one can provide an answer for me is, that if this was the true indefinite word of God written down never to be altered and defy time forever, then how can something like this happen? Wouldn't you have thought God would have figured this into his teaching? I'm either missing something or something isn't adding up.

Second, Christianity brought on the crusades 1300 years ago...over a thousand years ago. This religion was written almost that long ago, so why is it Christians progressed away from that violence and a majority of Muslims did as well, but a few select in the region still live like they did back then.

I'm fairly certain God would have seen this coming and made measures to avoid it or advise against it.

All the more reason for my belief: it's not the belief but the believer that is the difference between good and evil.

 

[Bisco]

they were showing an interview with a former head of the egyptain jihad group who has served a long sentence in jail, any way the guy says that isis recruit people with close to zero knowledge on religion!! and this is actually there bread and butter when it comes to recruiting all these non arab citizens into joining there craziness in the name of religion. note this guy actually was best friends with second in command iman al zawahri whom isis labelled as in infidel for supporting the muslim brotherhood in egypt who according to isis top dogs broke there code with dealing with the US! last week i had to write a paper about isis and i had to do a lot of research that involved watching many interviews and documentaries with and about these terrorist groups who are not only in iraq but are starting to get a foot hold in libya with how things are shaping up over there. i will post all the information i came to find out as soon as i get a chance to sit and type for long.

 

[ZoSo]

So you're hung up on the tattoo and not the beheading I see.

Don't worry, he said allahu akbar when he did it.

 

[Bisco]

So you're hung up on the tattoo and not the beheading I see.

May as well condemn a man for his lack of beard rather on what he's done for his community.



All the more reason for my belief: it's not the belief but the believer that is the difference between good and evil.

nailed it swag