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"I support Muslims who love freedom" (24 Viewers)
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It's actually a pretty good movie. Not one of those movies that run back to back every Christmas Eve and Easter. Oh and Anthony Quinn is in it.
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fatalism ... almost 80% of muslims dont understand it or know what does it mean ... you dont just live your life & make your choices because its written for u ! ... evrey thing that u do u do it by choice not beacuse its impose on u and allah with his knowleg wrote it in the book ... ALAMANH which humen accepte to carry = free of choise ...
mohammed (POH) said : who ever raise two girls to mature he will go to heaven because of them
fred i have Q for u ... u keep calling saudi Wahabi ... iam saudi and i have memorised the koran and to many hadeth and i studied feqh and never got cross the term wahabi which has nothing to do with islam where did u got it from and i want to know if u may tell me r u she3i ?
excuse my language i am not very fluent in english
mohammed (POH) said : who ever raise two girls to mature he will go to heaven because of them
fred i have Q for u ... u keep calling saudi Wahabi ... iam saudi and i have memorised the koran and to many hadeth and i studied feqh and never got cross the term wahabi which has nothing to do with islam where did u got it from and i want to know if u may tell me r u she3i ?
excuse my language i am not very fluent in english
you see fred i spend almost half of my life studing islam ... you know its part of our raising and that did not make me or million other extremist or what ever gives islam bad rep
fred i cant understand way people keep calling us Wahhabi ... he did not invent a new cult or mdhab ... sunni as you know have 4 mdhab 7nbli - shaf3i - malki - 7nfi ... we saudies r 7nablah ... calling us somthing else is beyond me and i think its made just for insult or just to push us slowly out of the circle of islam ...
i dont know alen what to make out of your respond ... you left all that i said and fixat on language error whene i already said excuse my language i am not very fluent in english ... if you see me as saudi or muslim less than u or u dont like what i have said u dont have to patronize me ... i stuied the quran form a man who stuied it from a man and goes on to mohamed (PBUH) directly + all the religion stuff that i stuied along almost make me a shaikh and you want to teach me about basics of islam ?! :smile:
fred i cant understand way people keep calling us Wahhabi ... he did not invent a new cult or mdhab ... sunni as you know have 4 mdhab 7nbli - shaf3i - malki - 7nfi ... we saudies r 7nablah ... calling us somthing else is beyond me and i think its made just for insult or just to push us slowly out of the circle of islam ...
It's PBUH
Learn the basics.
Learn the basics.
I think what he wants to say is that the term 'Wahabi' doesn't exist. This is what he means I guess,
http://saudiwoman.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/what-does-being-wahabi-mean/
http://saudiwoman.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/what-does-being-wahabi-mean/
I don't intend to push anyone out of "the circle of Islam". Thats not for me to judge at all. I also don't tend to insult you at all, i'm sorry if it sounded that way. I just want people to know that i(along with a big percentage of muslims) do not agree with many of Saudi Arabia's practices that are a direct result of Ibn Abdel Wahab's teachings.
Muhammad Ibn Abdel Wahab(for ppl who don't know, wahhabism is traced to him), intended to bring reform to Islam, and as a direct result of his teachings, you find practices in Saudi Arabia like "The committee for promotion of virtue and prevention of sin". Where in the Koran does it say, that we should have committees that control how people behave? Whats the point of judgment day and the afterlife, if we have a committee forcing people to behave in certain ways. If someone doesn't pray, you don't force him to pray, if a woman doesn't wear a niqab, you don't force her to wear one.
Muhammad Ibn Abdel Wahab(for ppl who don't know, wahhabism is traced to him), intended to bring reform to Islam, and as a direct result of his teachings, you find practices in Saudi Arabia like "The committee for promotion of virtue and prevention of sin". Where in the Koran does it say, that we should have committees that control how people behave? Whats the point of judgment day and the afterlife, if we have a committee forcing people to behave in certain ways. If someone doesn't pray, you don't force him to pray, if a woman doesn't wear a niqab, you don't force her to wear one.
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