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[Martin]

its more of glove slap to the face when you bring as a reference/precursor to a theological discussion a piece written by a racist moron.

True, but isn't the internet for trolling? Besides, you of all people to make such a criticism..

if your interest is genuine i suggest you take an academic class given by a doctor on the subject.

Meh, don't care enough to really get into it. Perfectly fine for some fun forum debates, though.

 

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[Martin]

You wouldn't say that if you knew Arabic.

Is it also untranslatable? Because in the case of most famous literary works it's still considered a masterpiece even in translation.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

True, but isn't the internet for trolling? Besides, you of all people to make such a criticism..



Meh, don't care enough to really get into it. Perfectly fine for some fun forum debates, though.

its fun and civil for you and me, but more than not it degenerates into the ugly. The article tried to juggle fatalism, gender equality, and anthropomorphism in other words it's a joke.

 

[Fred]

Is it also untranslatable? Because in the case of most famous literary works it's still considered a masterpiece even in translation.

It is translatable in the sense, that you could still get the meaning and essence of what the Koran is trying to say. But it loses its poetic appeal when translated.

 

[Martin]

its fun and civil for you and me, but more than not it degenerates into the ugly. The article tried to juggle fatalism, gender equality, and anthropomorphism in other words it's a joke.

Speaking of trolls, don't you have to admire Wilders tho? I mean what a master troll.

 

[Martin]

It is translatable in the sense, that you could still get the meaning and essence of what the Koran is trying to say. But it loses its poetic appeal when translated.

Is that because Arabic is too distant from indo European languages or something? Is this true for Arabic works in general?

If so you should probably be able to translate it much better in say Hebraic, no?

 

[Fred]

Speaking of trolls, don't you have to admire Wilders tho? I mean what a master troll.

He says some rather stupid things, i don't know how anyone can take him seriously.

The part where he says that they should just rename Jordan into Palestine, it would have been funny if it was a joke

 

[Zé Tahir]

I read books like everyday, for the last several years there's no time at which I'm not currently on some book, usually more than one. In the last 6 months I've read 3500 pages of Italian alone. But let's face it, holy books are not great works of literature.

Really though, do you want to watch a movie on the subject?

 

[Martin]

Really though, do you want to watch a movie on the subject?

Why not I guess.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Speaking of trolls, don't you have to admire Wilders tho? I mean what a master troll.

i admire those who throw people's stupidity in their face and get away with it politicians and (most)journalists are pathetic low lifes

 

[Martin]

i admire those who throw people's stupidity in their face and get away with it politicians and (most)journalists are pathetic low lifes

You're so reactionary, dude

Btw glad you finally admitted to what your mission is on this forum

 

[Fred]

Is that because Arabic is too distant from indo European languages or something? Is this true for Arabic works in general?

If so you should probably be able to translate it much better in say Hebraic, no?

Possibly.

But i doubt it would still have its poetic appeal whatever the language is its translated into.

It isn't much of a problem though, as what you're looking for is the meaning, which you'd find pretty easily in translated Koran copies.

I was just replying to your comment that it isn't a great work of literature.

 

[Martin]

Possibly.

But i doubt it would still have its poetic appeal whatever the language is its translated into.

It isn't much of a problem though, as what you're looking for is the meaning, which you'd find pretty easily in translated Koran copies.

I was just replying to your comment that it isn't a great work of literature.

I'm not a big fan of poetry in any case.

 

[Fred]

I'm not a big fan of poetry in any case.

Again thats because you don't know Arabic


Arabic Poetry

 

[Martin]

Again thats because you don't know Arabic


Arabic Poetry

I'll take your word for it.

^ Not even sarcastic, how do you like that?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

You're so reactionary, dude

Btw glad you finally admitted to what your mission is on this forum

i never said i have the balls to aspire to be that which i admire

 

[Zé Tahir]

Why not I guess.

Any answer but this and I would have been face palming

Here's a movie that shows the very beginnings of Islam.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074896/

Full Movie:

 

[Raz]

You're being vague. Which is the right angle and which is the wrong one?

Imo if anyone wants to understand what religion (Religion not as an organization, but more as a guide how to live a happy life) is and what it's about he has make judgments more by heart and feelings and not the other way around.

 

[Martin]

Any answer but this and I would have been face palming

Here's a movie that shows the very beginnings of Islam.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074896/

Full Movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5PI4ZPcX6I

3 hours, you expect a lot from me

 

[Fred]

I'll take your word for it.

^ Not even sarcastic, how do you like that?