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CL spot, YOU prefer?

  • Inter, I want the best thing for this league and Juve

  • Bayern, I can't support Inter and I want them to "choke"

  • I hate Inter. Stolen Scudetti, not a single Italian player, and I'll support anyone that plays again

  • You mean the Champions League has still been going on since December?


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Juve_fanatic

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Apr 5, 2006
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I want Inter to win it, just because Goran Pandev plays there. He is the only Macedonian player playing in CL and he deserves to win this, and whole Macedonia is behind him....to be more precise, ALL the fans want Inter/Pandev to win CL just because of him, nothing else.
 

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Esteban

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Mar 6, 2005
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Someone probably already said this but the coefficient thing, it really doesn't matter because the Germans will pass Italy next year nomatter what, since it's based on the last 5 years. That's what I heard anyway.

Now, seeing Inter players and fans celebrating winning the Champions League... are you kidding me? Anyone who believes in "the good of Italian football" are kidding themselves. :lol: I find it shocking that there is even a discussion.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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The WC would be better in terms of quality if more European teams played in it. Champions League would be better in terms of quality if Italy kept 4 places. Serie A would be better in terms of quality if Italy kept 4 places.

The question is whether you want to see the best football or your hate and principles is bigger than your support for the game.
 

Esteban

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Mar 6, 2005
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Look. Inter finnishing second or first makes very little difference in terms of this coefficient and "good for Italian football" bullshit.
Meanwhile, Inter winning the friggin' Champions League or losing a big final makes a whole lot of difference to anyone who supports Juve and have done so for more than a few years.

Anyone who supports Inter in the final is nothing more than a casual Juve fan. There's nothing wrong in that, but that's the way it is.
 

pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Look. Inter finnishing second or first makes very little difference in terms of this coefficient and "good for Italian football" bullshit.
Meanwhile, Inter winning the friggin' Champions League or losing a big final makes a whole lot of difference to anyone who supports Juve and have done so for more than a few years.

Anyone who supports Inter in the final is nothing more than a casual Juve fan. There's nothing wrong in that, but that's the way it is.
It doesn't make a very little difference for the league, it's pretty crucial for it. It will be very hard, but I think Serie A can maintain it's ground next season. I know there will be almost 5 points difference, but if Germany doesn't make another wonder 18 points season (better than Spain and England) and Italy gets their shit together, they can do it.

I couldn't care less about morons like Inter fans celebrating, Bayern is disgusting team anyway with the biggest asshole in nowadays football as their captain. Seeing him lifting the trophy.. meh, at least J.Zanetti is a classy player.
 

Bozi

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Oct 18, 2005
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the great thing about this whole 4 spots thing is that Milan,Inter and Juve generally do OK in the CL but Roma,Fiorentina,etc continually make little impact,its like your birds mate getting a sport fuck from a mate simply because they are hanging about with you and drunk
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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Mate, Japan isn't even that better than West Asian teams like Saudi Arabia and Iran, let alone African teams. Japan while possibly being the best Asian team in the last decade, i feel gets a bit overrated sometimes, i don't regularly watch or follow Japanese football, but i do watch them play in the Asian Cup and i do watch them play in qualifiers whenever they play an Arab team. Did you watch them in the last Asian Cup? They were an ordinary team.
Japan have won 3 out of the last 5 Asian Cups? They also didn't do bad at all in 2007, won the group easily, beat Australia on pens and then narrowly lost to the Saudis in the semi. Besides, development is not all about results. I've seen Japan draw at Wembley, when most smaller sides get turned over 3-0 to 5-0 in those friendly matches, but on a bad day they might have indeed lost 5-0. Japanese, like most east Asian teams, don't travel so well to the Gulf, and vice-versa. I've watched many Arab teams come to Yokohama and take a pretty good stuffing, sometimes saved by that problematic finishing problem. It's a very long way from Tokyo to the Middle East, this is a big problem faced by Asian teams.

I also never said Japan were better than African teams, I used the comparison that African teams benefit directly from European football whereas east Asian teams have to go it alone. In Japan they did with football what they have done with everything since the country made contact with the West. They look at what is the best in every area and copy it. With football they took on the Brazilian style, and they can all play lovely football but suffer on the physical side, although that has changed a lot in the 12 or 13 years I have been watching. Arabic teams don't have this problem because ethnically they are more mixed and various in terms of physique, in east Asian there is little variation.

I do think that either way it will be a long time before we see a very strong Asian team, and it will more likely be from a middle eastern side because more will make the jump to the strong European leagues as the cultural differences are big, but not as great. Japanese players often turn down moves to European sides, money is good and it is too much of a change. Marcus Tanaka was one who had offers from England, France and other places when his contract was up in December, but he just swapped J.League teams instead, and at 28 it was his last chance to move.

As for the World Cup I don't fancy the chances of Japan much, as I do not like Okada the coach, he and his results are just not as good as Osim or Zico. In a group with Cameroon, Netherlands and Denmark that is extremely tough and there are problems in attack.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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They qualified, did they not?

If so, then they deserve to be there, because they will be there.

I don't even like North Korea, but if they won through their own federation's qualification process, that's fair and square.
:hellyes: There is also a reason why FIFA allow a certain amount of teams from smaller football regions, us European football connoiseurs sometimes miss this. We want football to be a global game, don't we? And by that I don't just mean taking part.

Look at Turkey, in 1984 England beat them 8-0 in Istanbul, then in 1987 England beat them 8-0 at Wembley. In 2002, 15 years later, they finished 3rd at the World Cup.
 

Bianconero_Aus

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May 26, 2009
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Someone probably already said this but the coefficient thing, it really doesn't matter because the Germans will pass Italy next year nomatter what, since it's based on the last 5 years. That's what I heard anyway.

Now, seeing Inter players and fans celebrating winning the Champions League... are you kidding me? Anyone who believes in "the good of Italian football" are kidding themselves. :lol: I find it shocking that there is even a discussion.
My understanding is, if Inter defeat Bayern in the UCL Final (It has to be in either 90 or 120 mins...not on penalties) then Italy will keep the fourth spot for the 2011/2012 UCL season.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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:hellyes: There is also a reason why FIFA allow a certain amount of teams from smaller football regions, us European football connoiseurs sometimes miss this. We want football to be a global game, don't we? And by that I don't just mean taking part.

Look at Turkey, in 1984 England beat them 8-0 in Istanbul, then in 1987 England beat them 8-0 at Wembley. In 2002, 15 years later, they finished 3rd at the World Cup.
:tup:

Glad to see you're not snobbish like some of your other counterparts.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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hard luck freddy boy :D :D i missed the game bec i had to study for an exam tomorrow :( better luck next year.
:cry:


The fuckers, i didn't study for tomorrows exam and watched the game instead, now i have more than half the material left and i can't be bothered to study. All for nothing :cry:
 

Cirillo

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Nov 10, 2009
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Let's be honest. The Champions League is just a huge money making tool for UEFA and has been for years. Why else have they gradually been allowing more teams to enter. The Champions League was once for nothing but the Champions of their league to fight it out to see who was the champion of champions. Who cares if they only let 3 teams from Italy join, only one can win anyway? Are we that shallow that having 4 teams in the CL instead of 3 will make us feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

Therefore fuck inter and everything they stand for.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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lets see...

1. Blanc come out and say they're supporting inter, and stress how crucial the 4th spot is.

http://www.innopress.co.uk/2010/05/...orting-inter-milan-in-champions-league-final/

2. ac milans Gallaiani comes out and says the same

3. Footballitalia stresses the importance of supporting inter

http://football-italia.net/apr30n.html

4. some juve fans living in la la land, and care more about "how the inter milan fans might react", rather than the costly amount of money,players we could potentially lose.
 
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