Gonzalo Higuaín (66 Viewers)

How many Goals will Pipita score this season in all comp?

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campionesidd

Senior Member
Mar 16, 2013
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Yet it was his goals that were decisive for their 2 Premier league titles in the final stretch of the season. Higuain had the more glorious career, he played for Madrid and Juve, and the Argentina NT. But he didn't outperform Dzeko in half their relevant careers, as is the case with many other forwards I believe
5 out of 10. :rofl: More like 2.
 

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Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Yet it was his goals that were decisive for their 2 Premier league titles in the final stretch of the season. Higuain had the more glorious career, he played for Madrid and Juve, and the Argentina NT. But he didn't outperform Dzeko in half their relevant careers, as is the case with many other forwards I believe
You can't pick and choose which goals are the most decisive. the goals in the end of the season are usually more memorable, but they wouldn't have been decisive if the team didn't score the other 90% of goals during a season. The fact is, he was for the most part a player that was in and out of the City starting eleven, he was never that special in the EPL despite his exploits in Germany. I rate him to be honest, in fact I'm sure he'd have made Arsenal better if he was our striker and not Fucking Jiro, but to compare him to Higuain, one of the best strikers in the world in the past 6-7 years is just a stretch too far.

There is a reason Higuain played for Real and then Juve, while Dzeko was not a regular starter for City then ended up playing for Roma.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
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Oh since you used definitely I'm sold
and since you used, i mean didnt use any word, im also sold

of course he outperformed him be it personal or team stats
when? name the seasons which it happened in

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5 out of 10. :rofl: More like 2.
2 VW, 2 Roma and 1 in City

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You can't pick and choose which goals are the most decisive. the goals in the end of the season are usually more memorable, but they wouldn't have been decisive if the team didn't score the other 90% of goals during a season. The fact is, he was for the most part a player that was in and out of the City starting eleven, he was never that special in the EPL despite his exploits in Germany. I rate him to be honest, in fact I'm sure he'd have made Arsenal better if he was our striker and not Fucking Jiro, but to compare him to Higuain, one of the best strikers in the world in the past 6-7 years is just a stretch too far.

There is a reason Higuain played for Real and then Juve, while Dzeko was not a regular starter for City then ended up playing for Roma.
how about this then. Dzeko scored the goal to give City the lead in 8 different games in 13/14, which they all won in the end. heres a few games of that season

https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...city-football-club/crystal-palace-fc/1483642/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483663/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ted-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483731/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...tball-club/aston-villa-football-club/1483742/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ace-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483808/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483821/

notice how all of these are in the 2014 half season (except the 1st which happened in late december 2013) and how City overcome Pool in the very end. City won the title by 2 pts btw. he played 93 games in his 1st 3 (full) seasons at City, it was his last season when his performances declined and he played much less. he was their 2nd best scorer behind Aguero for his time there.

there is a reason Real ditched him and won 3 CL afterwards. there is also a reason hes invisible whenever he plays Real or Barcelona. hes a great league striker, still very good at this point even, despite the decline, but atm Dzeko is the better player. last 2 seasons showed that much
 

GordoDeCentral

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Apr 14, 2005
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and since you used, i mean didnt use any word, im also sold



when? name the seasons which it happened in

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2 VW, 2 Roma and 1 in City

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how about this then. Dzeko scored the goal to give City the lead in 8 different games in 13/14, which they all won in the end. heres a few games of that season

https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...city-football-club/crystal-palace-fc/1483642/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483663/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ted-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483731/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...tball-club/aston-villa-football-club/1483742/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ace-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483808/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483821/

notice how all of these are in the 2014 half season (except the 1st which happened in late december 2013) and how City overcome Pool in the very end. City won the title by 2 pts btw. he played 93 games in his 1st 3 (full) seasons at City, it was his last season when his performances declined and he played much less. he was their 2nd best scorer behind Aguero for his time there.

there is a reason Real ditched him and won 3 CL afterwards. there is also a reason hes invisible whenever he plays Real or Barcelona. hes a great league striker, still very good at this point even, despite the decline, but atm Dzeko is the better player. last 2 seasons showed that much
Talking to you on this subject is like pouring a glass of water on arrakis
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
and since you used, i mean didnt use any word, im also sold



when? name the seasons which it happened in

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2 VW, 2 Roma and 1 in City

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how about this then. Dzeko scored the goal to give City the lead in 8 different games in 13/14, which they all won in the end. heres a few games of that season

https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...city-football-club/crystal-palace-fc/1483642/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483663/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ted-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483731/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...tball-club/aston-villa-football-club/1483742/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...ace-fc/manchester-city-football-club/1483808/
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2...l-club/manchester-city-football-club/1483821/

notice how all of these are in the 2014 half season (except the 1st which happened in late december 2013) and how City overcome Pool in the very end. City won the title by 2 pts btw. he played 93 games in his 1st 3 (full) seasons at City, it was his last season when his performances declined and he played much less. he was their 2nd best scorer behind Aguero for his time there.

there is a reason Real ditched him and won 3 CL afterwards. there is also a reason hes invisible whenever he plays Real or Barcelona. hes a great league striker, still very good at this point even, despite the decline, but atm Dzeko is the better player. last 2 seasons showed that much
I don't think you got my point, I never disputed that he scored goals that led to points at the end of the season, I'm saying that isn't as significant as its made out to be. These goals might be more memorable because they came at the end of the season, but a league title is about who gets the most points, points at the end of the season don't count for more than those that came at the start of the season. The only reason Dzekos goals were significant is because City scored enough goals and got enough points during the course of the season to keep themselves in the race at the end of the season.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
I don't think you got my point, I never disputed that he scored goals that led to points at the end of the season, I'm saying that isn't as significant as its made out to be. These goals might be more memorable because they came at the end of the season, but a league title is about who gets the most points, points at the end of the season don't count for more than those that came at the start of the season. The only reason Dzekos goals were significant is because City scored enough goals and got enough points during the course of the season to keep themselves in the race at the end of the season.
and i made a different point, that they wouldnt have won the title without his goals. those are 6 games right there his goals won for them. thats 18 pts from his contribution alone, not counting other games (only took a look at close result games or games he scored 1st in). over here, Dzeko cant even take a dog for a walk without the media reporting it, so ive got to read all about him over the years. m 100% sure they arent winning atleast one of their titles without him
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,183
According to the Catalan newspaper Sport, Juve could soon receive a phone call from Paris. If Atletico Madrid is serious for Cavani, in fact, the French champions would throw themselves headlong into Gonzalo Higuain . The merry go round of the attackers would be complete with Morata returning to Turin, to recover the number '9' jersey.

What would a Barca paper know about PSG's transfer plans ffs

apologies for the poor translation
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,990
Ill admit that Gonzalo bailed us in his first season with his goals. IMO we would have lost the scudetto if he didnt scored the goals he scored at the beggining of the season when we were struggling (again) with formation issues.
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,304
Ill admit that Gonzalo bailed us in his first season with his goals. IMO we would have lost the scudetto if he didnt scored the goals he scored at the beggining of the season when we were struggling (again) with formation issues.
And how about the winning header against Inter and the lone goal beating Napoli. If not for those goals Juve would sit at 88 points right now. A poster back after the away Napoli match mentioned that if not Higgy, some other player would have scored that goal. Zizinho, I guess Dzeko would have been that player if he wore the Juve jersey, right? :wink:
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Yes, if we played without a striker, we would be worse. The fact Higuain scored goals is not extraordinary if they are goals any other striker would score.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Like the one against Tottenham, any striker would have scored :baus:

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Yes, for sure that was a great goal. Probably his best of the season. Very few other strikers would score that. That's why we paid 94M. Then he missed a crucial penalty that most other strikers would score. Should we ignore that in objective analysis?

The truth is that goal against Tottenham used to be more frequent with Napoli and since then those occurrences have been fewer and fewer. He has to produce those goals regularly in order for him to be better than other strikers. That should be logical.

You see some of the goals Balotelli has scored lately? Why wouldn't I just sign him for free instead of Higuain for 94M. For sure Balotelli can score tap-ins. For sure he can score PKs. What is the difference that is supposed to separate them? Higuain has missed too many sitters this year to claim he is so far ahead of other strikers.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
And how about the winning header against Inter and the lone goal beating Napoli. If not for those goals Juve would sit at 88 points right now. A poster back after the away Napoli match mentioned that if not Higgy, some other player would have scored that goal. Zizinho, I guess Dzeko would have been that player if he wore the Juve jersey, right? :wink:
a header from 5 meters after a perfect cross? yes youre right, only a handful of strikers in the world could have scored that goal. im also sure few would have missed that 1on1 with the keeper half an hour earlier, agree?

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Yes, for sure that was a great goal. Probably his best of the season. Very few other strikers would score that. That's why we paid 94M. Then he missed a crucial penalty that most other strikers would score. Should we ignore that in objective analysis?

The truth is that goal against Tottenham used to be more frequent with Napoli and since then those occurrences have been fewer and fewer. He has to produce those goals regularly in order for him to be better than other strikers. That should be logical.

You see some of the goals Balotelli has scored lately? Why wouldn't I just sign him for free instead of Higuain for 94M. For sure Balotelli can score tap-ins. For sure he can score PKs. What is the difference that is supposed to separate them? Higuain has missed too many sitters this year to claim he is so far ahead of other strikers.
this
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,304
a header from 5 meters after a perfect cross? yes youre right, only a handful of strikers in the world could have scored that goal. im also sure few would have missed that 1on1 with the keeper half an hour earlier, agree
Only replied to what you stated about Higgy and heading. Fuck the earlier miss my friend, no relevance to it. Juve won 3-2 and Higgy scored the winning goal. All that matters on the scoresheet.

That being said of course I believe Higgy had a subpar year as a whole. I can't argue about that and if someone better can be had, than fine with me. As good as the results showed this year with plenty of goals, never did seem to be any kind of rhythm to Juve's offensive flow.
 

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