K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Hmmm, I thought the problem was Conte's tactics not the squad which a lot of members here predicted they'd reach the semis last season! :boh:
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
116,141
The fact people are rating the mercato at the beginning of the season makes me laugh. All of these so called "$#@!" signings could turn out better than a lot of you are predicting.

I prefer to rate how these transfers fare, you know, at the end of the season when I actually see how they play/fit into the team.
Yeah, and then the previous mercato is magically forgotten about, and then you'll be on to saying, "wait again until next year, let's see how this new mercato fairs... a year down the road."

Nice try, but that trick isn't working, obviously.

Judge the fuck out of this mercato now.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Hmmm, I thought the problem was Conte's tactics not the squad which a lot of members here predicted they'd reach the semis last season! :boh:
Hell, half of Europe was thinking we would do well, not just in Italy. Last season's meltdown on the CL level I blame on Conte.

If it were Ranieri people would have blamed his "defeatist tactics". If it were Capello people would have blamed his "antiquated tactics".

Of course, Conte without blame, was never the issue. Makes no sense at all when, on paper, we had improved on the team the year before that that went further.:boh:
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Yeah, and then the previous mercato is magically forgotten about, and then you'll be on to saying, "wait again until next year, let's see how this new mercato fairs... a year down the road."

Nice try, but that trick isn't working, obviously.

Judge the fuck out of this mercato now.
CL non-starter mercato and Scudetto losing mercato. All in one.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
Hmmm, I thought the problem was Conte's tactics not the squad which a lot of members here predicted they'd reach the semis last season! :boh:
I am one who blamed the approach not the squad and thinks that the squad as it is has potential to reach the quarter finals. What happened this season though is we changed coach but it does not look like anything regarding the formation or the starters is going to change. Considering the fact that we are not improving an already good squad, signing a game changer was necessary if we intend to keep the same approach. Then comes the fact that we paid ridiculous amounts on bench players and even if Morata as many claim has lots of potential, if he does have it and delivers properly, we are going to lose him due to that fucked up contract.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I am one who blamed the approach not the squad and thinks that the squad as it is has potential to reach the quarter finals. What happened this season though is we changed coach but it does not look like anything regarding the formation or the starters is going to change. Considering the fact that we are not improving an already good squad, signing a game changer was necessary if we intend to keep the same approach. Then comes the fact that we paid ridiculous amounts on bench players and even if Morata as many claim has lots of potential, if he does have it and delivers properly, we are going to lose him due to that fucked up contract.
But maybe the starters don't need to change, rather the change of tactics could be what takes us further in Europe. We are dominating Italy now for 3 seasons and I think only Roma will cause us troubles this season.

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CL non-starter mercato and Scudetto losing mercato. All in one.
How was this a Schudetto losing mercato? :lol:
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
But maybe the starters don't need to change, rather the change of tactics could be what takes us further in Europe. We are dominating Italy now for 3 seasons and I think only Roma will cause us troubles this season.
That's what I said, we don't look like we are changing tactics and we did not get players for new tactics, we got bench players. Only Evra can change the back line to a 4-man line but that is not enough as the rest of the team is still intact.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
That's what I said, we don't look like we are changing tactics and we did not get players for new tactics, we got bench players. Only Evra can change the back line to a 4-man line but that is not enough as the rest of the team is still intact.
I think all we needed to change tactics was a back 4 player which Evra will do. People here certainly didn't want to see Chiellini or Asamoah as the LB now they got their wish. We have Evra, a dynamo midfield and strong attack. Age of Tevez or Llorente shouldn't even be brought into the picture (like some are hinting, not you)...not for another 2 years I'd say. Our LB buy in Evra says it all, we also had a lot of players out against Chievo so I'm sure getting a team back onto the chemistry of a back 4 line after 3 years of a 3 back line will take some time...preseason is also about fitness, not only tactics.

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Evra gives us options. Without him we can dominiate Italy still in the 352 and with him we can begin our conquest of Europe with a back 4. Or even the ability to change mid game will benefit us.

Let's see how Allegri does first after a couple months. I think by mid October we will know more about how our season will end up tactically.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Allegri is definitely looking at 4321. Pereyra did well at AMR/RWF position a couple of times during the pre-season and Coman is looking very impressive too.

Giovinco is more useful in 4321 than in 352 that's for sure. As for Tevez not much changes either way tbh. Llorente and Morata can definitely play CF in the 4321.

As things stand right now:


Buffon/Storari
Licht/Caceres - Barzagli/Bonucci - Chiellini/Ogbonna - Evra/Asamoah
Vidal/Romulo - Pirlo/Marchisio - Pogba/Asamoah
Pereyra/Coman - Tevez/Giovinco
Llorente/Morata

Bench: Pepe, Marrone, Rubinho.

As for now it seems Evra is ahead of Asa as LB, Pereyra is ahead of Coman and Llorente is ahead of Morata. Things could change, hard to predict right now.

No need to post the 352, we all perfectly know it ;)
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Allegri is definitely looking at 4321. Pereyra did well at AMR/RWF position a couple of times during the pre-season and Coman is looking very impressive too.

Giovinco is more useful in 4321 than in 352 that's for sure. As for Tevez not much changes either way tbh. Llorente and Morata can definitely play CF in the 4321.

As things stand right now:


Buffon/Storari
Licht/Caceres - Barzagli/Bonucci - Chiellini/Ogbonna - Evra/Asamoah
Vidal/Romulo - Pirlo/Marchisio - Pogba/Asamoah
Pereyra/Coman - Tevez/Giovinco
Llorente/Morata

Bench: Pepe, Marrone, Rubinho.

As for now it seems Evra is ahead of Asa as LB, Pereyra is ahead of Coman and Llorente is ahead of Morata. Things could change, hard to predict right now.

No need to post the 352, we all perfectly know it ;)
Good post :tup:
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,835
Allegri is definitely looking at 4321. Pereyra did well at AMR/RWF position a couple of times during the pre-season and Coman is looking very impressive too.

Giovinco is more useful in 4321 than in 352 that's for sure. As for Tevez not much changes either way tbh. Llorente and Morata can definitely play CF in the 4321.

As things stand right now:


Buffon/Storari
Licht/Caceres - Barzagli/Bonucci - Chiellini/Ogbonna - Evra/Asamoah
Vidal/Romulo - Pirlo/Marchisio - Pogba/Asamoah
Pereyra/Coman - Tevez/Giovinco
Llorente/Morata

Bench: Pepe, Marrone, Rubinho.

As for now it seems Evra is ahead of Asa as LB, Pereyra is ahead of Coman and Llorente is ahead of Morata. Things could change, hard to predict right now.

No need to post the 352, we all perfectly know it ;)
nice except for wasting last years mvp in a position hes not good in
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,087
We didn't strengthen the team and we spent 50m on the bench. That is how I'll remember this mercato.

Same team as last year, same strengths and same flaws.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
We didn't strengthen the team and we spent 50m on the bench. That is how I'll remember this mercato.

Same team as last year, same strengths and same flaws.
And when we win another unprecedented 4th straight title and progress further in the CL than last year, what will your thoughts be?
 

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