Giuseppe Marotta (84 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Let's talk about all te good deals so we set an end to this silly argument

Barzagli wanted a return to Italy and there's no denying we are the most attractive club in the country.
Pogba was talken as being a favour from Raiola to Nedved who had recently received a managerial role in the club.
Lichtsteiner was bought just as Lazio asked, they set a price, we negotiated it down a bit, paid the fee and got the player.
Vucinic? DOes that count as a good deal? Roma put him on the market, we paid his price.

Is that it? Are there other good deals? Because this is nothing out of the ordinary.

This is false. I can't believe the depths some folks go, the facts they distort, to put this great man down. And you forgot Tevez, Llorente, but I'm sure you will find something for them as well.

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Asamoah was an AM initially for Udinese.He also played AM for Ghana in WC 2010.Once Sanchez was introduced into the team Asamoah moved CM/LCM.

He started playing as a left-mid for Ghana only after his new found LWB role at Juve.

You are actually proving my point. He was CM/DM/LCM for Udinese and we decided to give him a try there. Why is this hard to understand? His role here was never classic LWB here in any case, not the type that sticks to the byline all the time, but he instead prefers to cut in to the middle.

 

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[Xperd]

Understand what ? I was saying that we bought Asamoah as a backup mid option initially.Did you even read all the posts in the last page ?

And we also considered loaning about Pogba,which means he was not in our plans INITIALLY.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

"great man" sorry but cant take seriously anyone who calls him that

 

[Vlad]

Understand what ? I was saying that we bought Asamoah as a backup mid option initially.Did you even read all the posts in the last page ?

And we also considered loaning about Pogba,which means he was not in our plans INITIALLY.

You don't know that. What I'm saying is that Asamoah had vast experience while playing on the left and it is not unreasonable to think that we brought him here for that, especially since in our system his position was more resembling of a LM, rather than a LWB, considering the tasks that were handed to him.

He planned to loan 18yo, player that had only few appearances for the first team? Wow, what a shocker. He wasn't in our plans? Has Conte anything to say as to who should be part of the first team?

 

[Xperd]

You don't know that. What I'm saying is that Asamoah had vast experience while playing on the left and it is not unreasonable to think that we brought him here for that, especially since in our system his position was more resembling of a LM, rather than a LWB, considering the tasks that were handed to him.

He planned to loan 18yo? Wow, what a shocker.

And that is exactly what im arguing against.We dint bring him specifically for the LWB role but for midfield depth.He only started playing LM for Ghana after his transformation in his role at Juve.He was mostly AM/CM for them before that.

As for the second part,Lion said Marotta bought Pogba for midfield depth while i said we already had Asamoah for that role..If what Lion said was true,why did Marotta consider loaning him out ? This again proves my point that Pogba wasnt in our plans initially and also that Asamoah was brought in as depth option initially.

 

[Vlad]

And that is exactly what im arguing against.We dint bring him specifically for the LWB role but for midfield depth.He only started playing LM for Ghana after his transformation in his role at Juve.He was mostly AM/CM for them before that.

As for the second part,Lion said Marotta bought Pogba for midfield depth while i said we already had Asamoah for that role..If what Lion said was true,why did he consider loaning him out ? This again proves my point that Pogba wasnt in our plans initially.

The more important here is his role for Udinese, as I'm sure we can agree on that considering the amount of games he played with them, as opposed to NT. He was playing on the left side for them, on more than a few occasions and as I have explained all this before, our plans from the beginning might have been to start him there, instead of mediocre De Ceglie. The fact that not in a single friendly was he deployed in the middle further confirms this. His role here was very different than what you would expect from a standard LWB. But he could have been brought as a backup as well, since he is midfielder and this is yet again an example of versatile player, that this mgt prefers.

 

[Xperd]

The more important here is what was his role for Udinese, as I'm sure we can agree on that considering the amount of games he played with them, as opposed to NT. He was playing on the left side for them, on more than a few occasions and as I have explained all this before, that our plans from the beginning might have been to start him there. The fact that not in a single friendly was he deployed in the middle further confirms this. His role here was very different than what would you expect from a standard LWB.

I totally remember we played a midfield of Vidal-Marrone-Asamoah in the TROFEO TIM Cup and some other friendly.
Asamoah at LWB was an experiment initially which turned out to be successful.

I dont remember him playing wide left for Udinese either.They used a 3-5-2/3-4-1-2 as well and they had Armero as the wide left player.

 

[Vlad]

I totally remember we played a midfield of Vidal-Marrone-Asamoah in the TROFEO TIM Cup and some other friendly.
Asamoah at LWB was an experiment initially which turned out to be successful.

I dont remember him playing wide left for Udinese either.They used a 3-5-2/3-4-1-2 as well and they had Armero as the wide left player.

Read the updated post above. Another great move by this man. Dat dare versatility that people mock.

Every purchase that turns out to be successful is just a fluke.

 

[Xperd]

Read the updated post above. Another great move by this man. Dat dare versatility

Ofcourse Conte successfully molding him to LWB(a position he never played before)=crediting Beppe for bringing in a versatile player,seems legit

I wonder why we were in the market for a WB even after the Asamoah purchase

 

[ZoSo]

>Asamoah = great LB and was planned all along
>Evra arrives to start at LB

 

[Vlad]

Ofcourse Conte successfully molding him to LWB(a position he never played before)=crediting Beppe for bringing in a versatile player,seems legit

I wonder why we were in the market for a WB even after the Asamoah purchase

I thought that we agreed on Asamoah playing lot of different roles before, especially on the left side, which would make him exactly the type of player that we want to bring.

But it's all down to Conte.

Pogba became great due to Conte even though he initially didn't see him in his plans.

Tevez found his motivation again

 

[Xperd]

>Asamoah = great LB and was planned all along

Except it was not.He had never played that position before and we brought him as 4th choice midfielder initially as that was our priority since we needed proper quality backup for Pirlo/Vidal/Marchisio.

 

[ZoSo]

Except it was not.He had never played that position before and we brought him as 4th choice midfielder initially as that was our priority since we needed proper quality backup for Pirlo/Vidal/Marchisio.

sarcasm

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I thought that we agreed on Asamoah playing lot of different roles before, especially on the left side, which would make him exactly the type of player that we want to bring.

But it's all down to Conte.

Pogba became great due to Conte even though he initially didn't see him in his plans.

Tevez found his motivation again

all these smilies are making you look like Juventino[RUS]

 

[Vlad]

all these smilies are making you look like Juventino[RUS]

Quite a feat.

 

[Xperd]

I thought that we agreed on Asamoah playing lot of different roles before, especially on the left side, which would make him exactly the type of player that we want to bring.

But it's all down to Conte.

Pogba became great due to Conte even though he initially didn't see him in his plans.

Tevez found his motivation again

No we didnt.I am suggesting he was an AM/CM for Udinese but you're trying to make it sound like he was some LCM/LW hybrid which isnt true.

We needed a high quality backup for Pirlo/Vidal/Marchisio and we bought Asamoah to deputize for them initially.Keep digging though

 

[Vlad]

No we didnt.I am suggesting he was an AM/CM for Udinese but you're trying to make it sound like he was some LCM/LW hybrid which isnt true.

We needed a high quality backup for Pirlo/Vidal/Marchisio and we bought Asamoah to deputize for them initially.Keep digging though

He wasn't AM for Udinese, at last not in his last few years. More of a LM/DM and he was brought to replace PDC and be a good backup to our midfield trio, as he was versatile mid. But what ever the reason as we could go on for ages, making this place unreadable, boring the others, what matters is that he was a great signing regardless and people should stop finding lame excuses to put this great man down.

Beppe

 

[Xperd]

I dont see any lame excuses.More like constructive critique which Beppe fanboys cant seem to accept thereby discrediting every argument ppl give against him.

 

[Vlad]

Then you would need a new pair of glasses or at least to learn what constructive criticism means. Is JCK practicing constructive criticism in his post? Is there anyone denying some of his obvious mistakes during the years? But plenty of people are suggesting that he has done more bad dealings, which is absurd. Jog on.

 

[Xperd]

I cant speak for other ppl.I can only speak for myself.

Just because i am not a pro-Beppe Marotta dickrider like you,doesnt mean i suddenly become a bitching moaning 'peasant'.I give credit where its due,criticize where its due.If you cant accept criticisms towards him,there's always an ignore list.I'll always be opinionated and i'll let my opinions known without insulting anybody whether you like it or not.

 

[Vlad]

Have you ever given credit? So far I've only seen you, along with a few others constantly moaning, 24/7, throughout the season, players, mgt, coach, not a single thing some of you folks like. But do please continue being objective and express you valuable opinions. And that insulting part, you gotta be kiddin'.