Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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some people do and that is where criticism comes from. If he got padoin, peluso, martinez, matri, quaqs,.... for free or little money no one would blame marotta if they did not succeed.
Personally i don´t blame him for isla because at the time it looked like it could work. it did not so we move on.

Yes I blame people for obvious mistakes and praise people for good work. Where did I refuse to do the same for conte? If you want my opinion on conte: biggest mistake was that he left and his stubbornness when it comes to tactics/subs in certain matches.

As I said before the good deals marotta made were no-brainer. I don´t hail marotta or conte for these players. In my view there was little risk financial and sporting wise, they were and are very good players.
If they were, then why didnt other teams do them, cause we arent the only team looking for good deals
 

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i dont know why this argument still on like if will make a deference, blame marotta, no blame conte.

marotta is doing his best to keep the club alive not to be bankrupt like milan, inter or like roma and then sell the club.

conte is an ambitious man he want the greatness to the club which i adore in him and he dont compromise for, moratta in the other hand want that but in order and slowly for financial reasons.

you cant blame them for doing their jobs, and both of them are right we all want a great team but not bankrupt.

but in the end i wish conte has more patience.
 

GordoDeCentral

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Kinda like Lion's posts above



See, this is what i'm talking about. When beppe buys pepe, people are like oh he's crap. When a better coach gets the best out of it,"its all conte"

Well no, its beppe who got that player in the first place.


Krasic was a pretty good player, but at some point things went wrong and del neri couldnt fix it.

Under conte, the guy barely dared to do anything. He had 0 confidence. Now excuse me, but that wasent the krasic i've seen in the beginning. Conte had his failures aswel, wich was that he couldnt give krasic his confidence back, as he did with many other players.

And thats about the only bad thing i'll say about conte's performances, cause i loved the guy and think he's the best coach in italy since Lippi.


But pinning Krasic on Marotta ? No sorry.

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What do you mean with that picture, cause Llorente has been pretty good considering circumstances

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Robben is predictable aswel. Doesnt seemb to hurt him

waaaat
 

Zacheryah

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Aug 29, 2010
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Krasic was a good purchase, but both coaches failed to make him work.


Del Neri failed completely, Conte failed to restore his confidence


Modern game has many onedimensional players, but with confidence and good coaching you can make those work just as good

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Me too .I am just scared with that Allegri.I just don't trust him as a coach.
Well, he can set a defence very good, but offensively he didnt impress me


He did got shit to work with at milan tho, when zlatan left
 

fredrik

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Aug 7, 2011
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If they were, then why didnt other teams do them, cause we arent the only team looking for good deals
Exactly! But ppl can always falsely argue;
Player turnes out good- conte
Player turnes out bad - marotta
Gets good player- no other interested
Misses good player- cant land good players, when other interested.

Another funny thing would be if marotta sells vidal for 70m, and makes a huge profit. Would ppl than say he cant sell players, or give him hell for selling our best player?
 

DUKAC

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Feb 29, 2012
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Krasic was a good purchase, but both coaches failed to make him work.


Del Neri failed completely, Conte failed to restore his confidence


Modern game has many onedimensional players, but with confidence and good coaching you can make those work just as good

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Well, he can set a defence very good, but offensively he didnt impress me


He did got $#@! to work with at milan tho, when zlatan left
Yeah but he isn't any quick decision maker . He also just don't have any authority which will make him suffer in the locker room.That was Conte's biggest advantage.He was like friend/father/coach and everything to every player.He motivated anyone in our team. Allegri just lack that.I have very,very bad feelings about Allegri.
 

waschbeer

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Aug 12, 2002
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If they were, then why didnt other teams do them, cause we arent the only team looking for good deals
sorry my mistake, of course marotta was the only sporting director who saw the potential in these opportunities and took these huge risks.
I am beginning to think that he could be indeed flawless, maybe i was wrong about him.
 

Zacheryah

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sorry my mistake, of course marotta was the only sporting director who saw the potential in these opportunities and took these huge risks.
I am beginning to think that he could be indeed flawless, maybe i was wrong about him.
He has been excellent for us, the best gm in italy and its not even close

But offcourse he has had lesser deals aswel.


The ones assaulting him, like you, discard all his achievements, and if someone defends him and explains why he is so good, you respond that we think he's flawless


Nope, we are just objective realists. We dont live in a fairytail world
 

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Kinda like Lion's posts above



See, this is what i'm talking about. When beppe buys pepe, people are like oh he's crap. When a better coach gets the best out of it,"its all conte"

Well no, its beppe who got that player in the first place.


Krasic was a pretty good player, but at some point things went wrong and del neri couldnt fix it.

Under conte, the guy barely dared to do anything. He had 0 confidence. Now excuse me, but that wasent the krasic i've seen in the beginning. Conte had his failures aswel, wich was that he couldnt give krasic his confidence back, as he did with many other players.

And thats about the only bad thing i'll say about conte's performances, cause i loved the guy and think he's the best coach in italy since Lippi.


But pinning Krasic on Marotta ? No sorry.

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What do you mean with that picture, cause Llorente has been pretty good considering circumstances

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Robben is predictable aswel. Doesnt seemb to hurt him
not really, Robben has really refined his game more in the last few years, krasic hasn't/didn't he had a good first half to his debut season, after that he regressed and he was easily sussed out and failed to adapt thus he suffered
 

waschbeer

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Aug 12, 2002
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He has been excellent for us, the best gm in italy and its not even close

But offcourse he has had lesser deals aswel.


The ones assaulting him, like you, discard all his achievements, and if someone defends him and explains why he is so good, you respond that we think he's flawless


Nope, we are just objective realists. We dont live in a fairytail world


I never assaulted him or discarded his achievements. In fact I have no problem with him staying but I want to have the right to criticize certain deals he made. You think he is excellent, I think he is average(with room for improvement).
You objective realists think, he is the best thing since sliced bread. We the fairytail(whatever this is) world inhabitants have to power (probably because of our magic fairytails) to evaluate his actions independently. So therefore imo some of his moves were good and some were bad.
 

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