Giuseppe Marotta (65 Viewers)

[Vlad]

Man some people are stuburn and will not change their opinions no matter.

I remember when we had Secco here people were defending him like crazy. Whenever I or anyone else criticize the guy, they would jump on him as if we insulted their girlfriends.

The moment he left, same people are calling him names like sucko or whatever.

Ill bet right now, in a season or 2 when Marotta evountally leaves, same thing will happen to him.

Just wait and watch.

During Secco's tenure team never won a single trophy, failed to strengthen important areas, failed to replace most of aging players that Marotta had to deal with later on, didn't invest in youth, went to a spending spree in his final year that eventually led to his dismissal. Sorry, might be my ignorance, but I can't see any resemblance.

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

my two cents
Marotta makes top signings (pirlo, barzagli, pogba, lorente, vidal, tevez, coman, lichtsteiner) for peanuts. all of them risk-free because they were already top players or did come for free. no-brainer but for this he is hailed as the king of directors by some members.

All other signings for the first team were either vastly overvalued or had no impact. The only exception would be asamoah and vucinic, paid big bucks but paid off. But when someone criticize marotta exactly for this money wasting, he is a fucking peasant with no brain.

It is ridiculous. I mean if it were Del Piero who was criticized for some mistakes, i would understand if people defend him to death because he is a fucking legend. But we are talking about marotta who works FOR juve and is not juve.

right on

 

[Lion]

Man some people are stuburn and will not change their opinions no matter.

I remember when we had Secco here people were defending him like crazy. Whenever I or anyone else criticize the guy, they would jump on him as if we insulted their girlfriends.

The moment he left, same people are calling him names like sucko or whatever.

Ill bet right now, in a season or 2 when Marotta evountally leaves, same thing will happen to him.

Just wait and watch.

yes, we going to insult the legendary gm that signed legendary players such as vidal, pogba, barzagli, pirlo and tevez. we are going to compare him to the guy who signed us amauri and melo

 

[JuveJay]

hehehehehe

 

[Lion]

i love he complaint that he signed us only free or established players. like those cant be a risk. just ask chelsea with sheva and torres.

no one knew vidal, or pogba, or bara would turn out this good, or that pirlo would regain his form, or that tevez would adapt so quickly.


maybe we should sign playes like roma eh? send 20 million plus on every single under 25 year old player only to sell them a season later because or books cant handle such long term debt.

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my two cents
Marotta makes top signings (pirlo, barzagli, pogba, lorente, vidal, tevez, coman, lichtsteiner) for peanuts. all of them risk-free because they were already top players or did come for free. no-brainer but for this he is hailed as the king of directors by some members.

All other signings for the first team were either vastly overvalued or had no impact. The only exception would be asamoah and vucinic, paid big bucks but paid off. But when someone criticize marotta exactly for this money wasting, he is a fucking peasant with no brain.

It is ridiculous. I mean if it were Del Piero who was criticized for some mistakes, i would understand if people defend him to death because he is a fucking legend. But we are talking about marotta who works FOR juve and is not juve.

nonsense. barza, vidal and pogba, and pirlo and tevez have become the fundamental players for the team. none of them were wanted at their clubs anymore and were not considered key players (except vidal and even then he was not this good) so your point is silly. he signed players that were key part in juventus' record breaking title runs. besides pirlo. did you even know or had seen any of those players before? i highly doubt it

 

[waschbeer]

i love he complaint that he signed us only free or established players. like those cant be a risk. just ask chelsea with sheva and torres.

no one knew vidal, or pogba, or bara would turn out this good, or that pirlo would regain his form, or that tevez would adapt so quickly.


maybe we should sign playes like roma eh? send 20 million plus on every single under 25 year old player only to sell them a season later because or books cant handle such long term debt.

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nonsense. barza, vidal and pogba, and pirlo and tevez have become the fundamental players for the team. none of them were wanted at their clubs anymore and were not considered key players (except vidal and even then he was not this good) so your point is silly. he signed players that were key part in juventus' record breaking title runs. besides pirlo. did you even know or had seen any of those players before? i highly doubt it

ok. financially speaking:
barzagli cost 0,3 mil if he flops no harm
vidal cost 12 mil was one of the best if not the best player in germany, the risk that he flops was very tiny even if he had flopped the 12 mil could be easily recovered
pogba cost 0,3 mil one of the hottest prospects at the time, if he flops no harm
pirlo for free 3 years contract and big wages, there was little risk. even if he flopped there would be many teams who would take an out of form pirlo for even higher wages (usa, oil clubs etc)
tevez cost 9+6 mil come on the risk was minimal that this deal wouldn´t work out. Tevez was probably the strongest striker we got since zlatan, if he flopped nobody would blame marotta.

you are right he got these player and this is were credit is due.

But he was not responsible for implementing these players into the team and let their strengths shine. this was contes job.

i watched all these players with the exception of pogba but I don´t exactly know how that matters. people criticize marotta for the money wasting deals he made.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

I think a fair assessment of Beppe would be that he played a large part in getting us back to the top of (Admittedly a poor) Serie A. And has left us the likes of Pogba who even if they don't stay can get us a massive amount of money. However, it's also fair to say he's had his fair share of crap signings and may not be the man to take us forward once again if we ever can compete with elite clubs for the odd signing here and there. Simply put, we have no idea how he would fare in such high profile negotiations.

 

[Lion]

i am not sure what you are getting . first you say that it was not marotta's job for iplementing those players and getting their streghts, but then you blame marotta for buying average players? so it's not conte's fault he cnt do shit with guys like isla?

you want us to blame marotta for the bads, and not praise him for the goods, yet you refuse to do the same for conte. hypocrite much?

one more thing, of course it's not marotta's job to implent playes. that's conte's job. i don't care of the player costs zero dollars or 100 million. it's marotta's job to sign players the club can use.

 

[Zacheryah]

like spend 30 mil on krasic + martinez, ya that really made us competitive

Martinez was wrong yeah. Krasic got everyone pretty excited including me, but then he crashed out and del neri couldnt change it
When he played under conte, conte failed to lift his confidence, and he needed a new team to fix that.

 

[Jem83]

Lion

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Martinez was wrong yeah. Krasic got everyone pretty excited including me, but then he crashed out and del neri couldnt change it
When he played under conte, conte failed to lift his confidence, and he needed a new team to fix that.

failed? the only failure in this episode is marottas. Krasic we all loved because he really wanted juventus, and hardly complained, doesnt change the fact he was a really bad recruit.

 

[Lion]

did you know he was going to fail before he signed on?

 

[Badass J Elkann]

lets face it though, Krasic was a very limited and predictable player, in fact he was so predictable everyone knew he would try to run to the outside of his player and put in a blind cross into the area.

 

[Preet]

did you know he was going to fail before he signed on?

 

[Zacheryah]

Kinda like Lion's posts above

failed? the only failure in this episode is marottas. Krasic we all loved because he really wanted juventus, and hardly complained, doesnt change the fact he was a really bad recruit.

See, this is what i'm talking about. When beppe buys pepe, people are like oh he's crap. When a better coach gets the best out of it,"its all conte"

Well no, its beppe who got that player in the first place.


Krasic was a pretty good player, but at some point things went wrong and del neri couldnt fix it.

Under conte, the guy barely dared to do anything. He had 0 confidence. Now excuse me, but that wasent the krasic i've seen in the beginning. Conte had his failures aswel, wich was that he couldnt give krasic his confidence back, as he did with many other players.

And thats about the only bad thing i'll say about conte's performances, cause i loved the guy and think he's the best coach in italy since Lippi.


But pinning Krasic on Marotta ? No sorry.

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What do you mean with that picture, cause Llorente has been pretty good considering circumstances

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lets face it though, Krasic was a very limited and predictable player, in fact he was so predictable everyone knew he would try to run to the outside of his player and put in a blind cross into the area.

Robben is predictable aswel. Doesnt seemb to hurt him

 

[Preet]

What do you mean with that picture, cause Llorente has been pretty good considering circumstances

It means that you haven't read Lion's posts at all.

 

[mondo1]

Martinez was wrong yeah. Krasic got everyone pretty excited including me, but then he crashed out and del neri couldnt change it
When he played under conte, conte failed to lift his confidence, and he needed a new team to fix that.

Same could be Said for Diego and secco everyone was excited back than....i dont even get Whats wrong with criticising someone. Marotta def made some great signings (pirlo pogba barza Vidal) but he made some pretty bad signings also (elia Martínez Krasic peluso etc). A sporting director is bound to make mistakes but its obvious that u need to learn from past mistakes.
And he still makes some mistakes over and over again (quantity over quality, or finalising deals for example). I really dont Need to accept or share every Choice the Club makes. People mock others just cause they dont Share their views or critizise the great man....

 

[waschbeer]

i am not sure what you are getting . first you say that it was not marotta's job for iplementing those players and getting their streghts, but then you blame marotta for buying average players? so it's not conte's fault he cnt do shit with guys like isla?

you want us to blame marotta for the bads, and not praise him for the goods, yet you refuse to do the same for conte. hypocrite much?

one more thing, of course it's not marotta's job to implent playes. that's conte's job. i don't care of the player costs zero dollars or 100 million. it's marotta's job to sign players the club can use.

some people do and that is where criticism comes from. If he got padoin, peluso, martinez, matri, quaqs,.... for free or little money no one would blame marotta if they did not succeed.
Personally i don´t blame him for isla because at the time it looked like it could work. it did not so we move on.

Yes I blame people for obvious mistakes and praise people for good work. Where did I refuse to do the same for conte? If you want my opinion on conte: biggest mistake was that he left and his stubbornness when it comes to tactics/subs in certain matches.

As I said before the good deals marotta made were no-brainer. I don´t hail marotta or conte for these players. In my view there was little risk financial and sporting wise, they were and are very good players.

 

[Zacheryah]

Same could be Said for Diego and secco everyone was excited back than....i dont even get Whats wrong with criticising someone. Marotta def made some great signings (pirlo pogba barza Vidal) but he made some pretty bad signings also (elia Martínez Krasic peluso etc). A sporting director is bound to make mistakes but its obvious that u need to learn from past mistakes.
And he still makes some mistakes over and over again (quantity over quality, or finalising deals for example). I really dont Need to accept or share every Choice the Club makes. People mock others just cause they dont Share their views or critizise the great man....

Those Marotta signings are the way forward.

I liked Diego actually, i wasent fond of his sale. To soon.

 

[mondo1]

some people do and that is where criticism comes from. If he got padoin, peluso, martinez, matri, quaqs,.... for free or little money no one would blame marotta if they did not succeed.
Personally i don´t blame him for isla because at the time it looked like it could work. it did not so we move on.

Yes I blame people for obvious mistakes and praise people for good work. Where did I refuse to do the same for conte? If you want my opinion on conte: biggest mistake was that he left and his stubbornness when it comes to tactics/subs in certain matches.

As I said before the good deals marotta made were no-brainer. I don´t hail marotta or conte for these players. In my view there was little risk financial and sporting wise, they were and are very good players.

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