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j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
After the war in Kosovo my country took you in as refugees and then all of those who stayed were given citizenship if you want to know. Get your facts straight. As for the 1994 statistic it's accurate but from 1994 until 2001 many emigrated and left the country and the percentage went down by a lot and I said it's not accurate for 2001 when the war started. Same as today there are no more then 20%. How old are you btw sounds like you don't know what you are talking about.
What the fuck did you have to offer for us to stay there? We finally got rid of the Serbian regime but hey let's stay in another regime that hates us in Macedonia. You have no idea how high the enthusiam was after the war. All this bullshit you are posting here is just because Albanias have more rights now there and you are pissed about it, but guess what? You can't do shit about it anymore.
 

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Aug 26, 2014
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What the fuck did you have to offer for us to stay there? We finally got rid of the Serbian regime but hey let's stay in another regime that hates us in Macedonia. You have no idea how high the enthusiam was after the war. All this bullshit you are posting here is just because Albanias have more rights now there and you are pissed about it, but guess what? You can't do shit about it anymore.
Who says we want you in the first place? They have more rights then they deserve now I agree but all things change.
 

Albo

Senior Member
Apr 13, 2009
11,463
And I said the census from 1994 isn't accurate for 1999-2001. Many people in that period emigrated abroad as you say you included. As for post 1999 I'm sorry for what you went trough but almost all Albanians from Kosovo stayed here and that changed the demographic significantly and that's a fact.
Haha that's 100% lie , no fuckingone stayed in Macedonia .

Everyone came back from Albania,Macedonia , why would they stay there ??

Only people who stayed abroad were guys who migrated in Usa,Europe,Australia


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Aug 26, 2014
2,495
Haha that's 100% lie , no fuckingone stayed in Macedonia .

Everyone came back from Albania,Macedonia , why would they stay there ??

Only people who stayed abroad were guys who migrated in Usa,Europe,Australia


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What?? That is what I'm saying many left Macedonia and stayed abroad.

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See, it was not that hard my dear mongrel neighbour.
Ok, my inbreed neighbor. Now go fuck your sheep.
 
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Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Well the Arab spring countries said the same thing, look at them now. Be careful what you wish for.

But what can we do if not hope :D
We can go on like this for hours dude, I feel you and sorry for what is happening in your country and wish you all the best.
How is the Arab Spring the West's fault. Arabs were miserable with their regimes, but then our confused populations decided to support/install different authoritarian regimes in their stead. We missed a historic opportunity to change for the better. But I think we have a toxic culture where somehow if an Arab dictator bombs whole villages, commits genocide, or invades neighboring countries we justify it. These regimes have done 1000 times more damage than anything American or Western foreign policy has done.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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How is the Arab Spring the West's fault. Arabs were miserable with their regimes, but then our confused populations decided to support/install different authoritarian regimes in their stead. We missed a historic opportunity to change for the better. But I think we have a toxic culture where somehow if an Arab dictator bombs whole villages, commits genocide, or invades neighboring countries we justify it. These regimes have done 1000 times more damage than anything American or Western foreign policy has done.
When the Arab Spring was in full swing, I was laughing at all the social media fawning going at the time ... how Facebook and Twitter were tools for liberation.

The collapse of the Arab Spring didn't point out that fallacy. But the social media companies did it themselves. How's that for a parallel to Arab dictators, right? :D
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
Well it's obvious who is pushing the most for war, the ones that stand to make the most profit out of it. Also Nato is just getting closer and closer to Russia for decades and just pushing one button after another. Plus with the recent events in Kazakhstan, Russia has no choice but to act, we'll see how it goes but I hope it doesn't come to a war and the whole situation escalates. As for the economic side Europe is too dependent on gas and the Nord Stream 2 pipeline we'll see how it goes I don't believe there are going to be sanctions there unless something major happens.

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Man USA and West Europe need to stop making Russia to be like the boogieman and get you all riled up. What the west is doing and always done is going after their own interest of taking resources and fucking up countries for decades and using their own appointed leaders(dictators) to do their bidding. And where they can't do that they try the sneaky way with insurrections and demonstrations and act all noble and shit. Just stop.
Sa what you mean to say that the west is actually trying to invade Ukraine, not Russia.
Got it.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
Yep, both sides are with blood on their hands. No point in taking any side but I agree that it looks like the side that wants the war the most are the US and their closest allies.
Yeah. I guess the west is going to invade Ukraine anytime now, not Russia.

What is it with this level of propaganda.
It looks straight from a Russia today news outlet.
 
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kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
EU countries no, but Nato is and we are talking about Nato as it's a military organization. We are talking about military presence in those countries near Russia. Why couldn't they accept those countries you mentioned in EU while not require them to be part of Nato?
Because UE doesn't have a military of it's own.
If that were the case they wouldn't be a reason for NATO to exist.
Without NATO countries like Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, the baltic countries , even Finland and Sweden would still be at the whims of Russia.

NATO and the USA practically garanties our independence from Russia.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Yeah that shit was really "organic"
But i dont understand. Regardless of how it ended up, or whether or not foreign countries tried to benefit from it in some way or another. How was the actual uprising not organic? The hundreds of thousands of people protesting, or revolting against those regimes are all foreign agents?

Was it not completely logical people would be fed up of those regimes in Libya, Syria, Egypt etc? The fact that those same populations ended up supporting alternative figures or regimes that are just as autocratic is the sad part
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,475
The only good thing that this potentially war in Ukraine did was boost the approval rating of the EU and NATO to 80%, in my country, contrary to Russia's meddling who always tries to push "the nationalistic" agenda in these parts of the world.
 

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