[EURO 2020 Final] ITALIA vs England (July 11th 2021) (25 Viewers)

Jun 8, 2021
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We didn't have to wait to long...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most striking aspect of Italy’s 26-man squad before it took to the pitch was that, alone among the main contenders, it did not include a single player considered as being of colour <a href="https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc">https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc</a></p>&mdash; The Economist (@TheEconomist) <a href="">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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JuveJay

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Pardos obviously aren't colourful enough by Italian standards. He could pass as a southerner.

How many options were there to be picked. Kean? Ogbonna maybe? It's hard to argue against those picked tbh.
 

Oggy

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Pardos obviously aren't colourful enough by Italian standards. He could pass as a southerner.

How many options were there to be picked. Kean? Ogbonna maybe? It's hard to argue against those picked tbh.
Italy should form a commission, Lewis Hamilton style, to investigate the lack of diversity in NT.
 

s4tch

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i created an account to read the full article. what a waste of 1,5 minutes of my life i'll never get back.

article has no author, fiona may and balotelli are mentioned as examples of colored skin italian athletes. terribly lazy journalism, could pass as a tuttosport market rumor.
 

Elvin

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We didn't have to wait to long...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most striking aspect of Italy’s 26-man squad before it took to the pitch was that, alone among the main contenders, it did not include a single player considered as being of colour <a href="https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc">https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc</a></p>&mdash; The Economist (@TheEconomist) <a href="">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
So fucking what? This shit is ridiculous.

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i created an account to read the full article. what a waste of 1,5 minutes of my life i'll never get back.

article has no author, fiona may and balotelli are mentioned as examples of colored skin italian athletes. terribly lazy journalism, could pass as a tuttosport market rumor.
copy paste it here please.

BTW don't the Agnellis own part of The Economist? :D
 

s4tch

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Italy’s government basks in the glow of footballing success
A victory for the European idea, but also for the Italian right

Jul 12th 2021
THE EURO 2020 final between Italy and England was striking, not just for the clash of footballing styles in the match itself, but for the socio-political undercurrents that swirled between the two sides and touched on issues that included nationalism, internationalism and racial sensitivity. In at least one respect, it was a victory for Europeanism. It was the first UEFA European championship final to be played since Britain’s exit from the European Union. And although Brexit was not prominent in Italian commentary in the build-up to the game, it was never far below the surface. Hours before the match, one of Italy’s most popular television presenters, Ezio Greggio, used Instagram to urge Roberto Mancini and his team to “make them do a Brexit from the Euros too”.

That they did just that was as much of a boost for Italy’s fervently communautaire prime minister, Mario Draghi, as it was a dampener for his Brexit-sponsoring counterpart, Boris Johnson. A columnist for Il Mattino, a Naples daily, credited Mr Draghi, a former president of the European Central Bank, with “creating an internationally favourable context for Italy, presenting it in European and global forums as a serious and credible country”. Such a country, he added, was “equipped to win”.


Not everyone would agree with that analysis. But Italy’s victory on July 11th will certainly spread a warm glow of satisfaction through the country that may benefit Mr Draghi’s heterogeneous, and often seemingly fragile, coalition. The current Italian government spans a broad arc that stretches from the radical left, as represented by the small Free and Equal alliance, to the radical right, in the form of Matteo Salvini’s much larger Northern League.

To the extent that any sporting event can have an impact on politics, this one unquestionably favoured the right—and not just the League, but the even harder-right Brothers of Italy party, which is in opposition. The most striking aspect of Italy’s 26-man squad before it took to the pitch was that, alone among the main contenders,it did not include a single player considered as being of colour (Although three were born in Brazil, they are of Italian descent). The publication of the team photograph prompted a slew of criticism on social media, particularly in France. And there was further criticism of the squad’s ambivalent approach to “taking a knee” as a gesture of opposition to racism. Only some of the Italian players knelt before the game against Wales. They subsequently took the odd decision that they should all do so, but only if the opposing team did too.

Almost every country has learned that, in sport, diversity brings dividends—and indeed medals and cups. Italy, although it has a smaller and more recently acquired immigrant population than either France or Britain, is no exception. Fiona May, a British-born long-jumper of Jamaican extraction who became Italian by marriage, twice won gold for Italy in the world athletics championships. Mario Balotelli, born in Italy of Ghanaian parents, won 36 caps as a striker in the national football squad between 2010 and 2018.

But one reason why talented young sports people of colour in Italy are not nurtured through junior national teams in the early parts of their careers is that they are not Italians. And that is the way that Mr Salvini and the Brothers of Italy’s leader, Giorgia Meloni, want it to stay.

Italy’s citizenship law is a modified form of jus sanguinis, whereby the right to nationality is inherited. Children born in Italy to immigrant parents cannot usually apply to become Italian until they reach the age of 18, and only then if they have lived in Italy continuously since birth. Some never do. Around 5m people who speak Italian as their dominant language, often with the accents and inflections typical of Italian regions, continue to be considered foreigners.

When he was elected to lead the centre-left Democratic Party (PD) earlier this year, Enrico Letta said that he would make it a priority to change the law to allow for a form of jus soli, whereby the right to nationality arises from the place of birth. His announcement met with angry criticism, not only from Ms Meloni in opposition, but from his notional ally, Mr Salvini.

After Sunday’s match, both party leaders tweeted images of the members of the Italian squad celebrating, broad smiles on every face. It will do neither politician any harm that none of those faces was black. With the black British footballers who missed penalties suffering vicious racist abuse online, European football’s big night was not a great one for multiculturalism.

sorry for wasting anyone's time with this load of dogshit.
 

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Italy’s government basks in the glow of footballing success
A victory for the European idea, but also for the Italian right

Jul 12th 2021
THE EURO 2020 final between Italy and England was striking, not just for the clash of footballing styles in the match itself, but for the socio-political undercurrents that swirled between the two sides and touched on issues that included nationalism, internationalism and racial sensitivity. In at least one respect, it was a victory for Europeanism. It was the first UEFA European championship final to be played since Britain’s exit from the European Union. And although Brexit was not prominent in Italian commentary in the build-up to the game, it was never far below the surface. Hours before the match, one of Italy’s most popular television presenters, Ezio Greggio, used Instagram to urge Roberto Mancini and his team to “make them do a Brexit from the Euros too”.

That they did just that was as much of a boost for Italy’s fervently communautaire prime minister, Mario Draghi, as it was a dampener for his Brexit-sponsoring counterpart, Boris Johnson. A columnist for Il Mattino, a Naples daily, credited Mr Draghi, a former president of the European Central Bank, with “creating an internationally favourable context for Italy, presenting it in European and global forums as a serious and credible country”. Such a country, he added, was “equipped to win”.


Not everyone would agree with that analysis. But Italy’s victory on July 11th will certainly spread a warm glow of satisfaction through the country that may benefit Mr Draghi’s heterogeneous, and often seemingly fragile, coalition. The current Italian government spans a broad arc that stretches from the radical left, as represented by the small Free and Equal alliance, to the radical right, in the form of Matteo Salvini’s much larger Northern League.

To the extent that any sporting event can have an impact on politics, this one unquestionably favoured the right—and not just the League, but the even harder-right Brothers of Italy party, which is in opposition. The most striking aspect of Italy’s 26-man squad before it took to the pitch was that, alone among the main contenders,it did not include a single player considered as being of colour (Although three were born in Brazil, they are of Italian descent). The publication of the team photograph prompted a slew of criticism on social media, particularly in France. And there was further criticism of the squad’s ambivalent approach to “taking a knee” as a gesture of opposition to racism. Only some of the Italian players knelt before the game against Wales. They subsequently took the odd decision that they should all do so, but only if the opposing team did too.

Almost every country has learned that, in sport, diversity brings dividends—and indeed medals and cups. Italy, although it has a smaller and more recently acquired immigrant population than either France or Britain, is no exception. Fiona May, a British-born long-jumper of Jamaican extraction who became Italian by marriage, twice won gold for Italy in the world athletics championships. Mario Balotelli, born in Italy of Ghanaian parents, won 36 caps as a striker in the national football squad between 2010 and 2018.

But one reason why talented young sports people of colour in Italy are not nurtured through junior national teams in the early parts of their careers is that they are not Italians. And that is the way that Mr Salvini and the Brothers of Italy’s leader, Giorgia Meloni, want it to stay.

Italy’s citizenship law is a modified form of jus sanguinis, whereby the right to nationality is inherited. Children born in Italy to immigrant parents cannot usually apply to become Italian until they reach the age of 18, and only then if they have lived in Italy continuously since birth. Some never do. Around 5m people who speak Italian as their dominant language, often with the accents and inflections typical of Italian regions, continue to be considered foreigners.

When he was elected to lead the centre-left Democratic Party (PD) earlier this year, Enrico Letta said that he would make it a priority to change the law to allow for a form of jus soli, whereby the right to nationality arises from the place of birth. His announcement met with angry criticism, not only from Ms Meloni in opposition, but from his notional ally, Mr Salvini.

After Sunday’s match, both party leaders tweeted images of the members of the Italian squad celebrating, broad smiles on every face. It will do neither politician any harm that none of those faces was black. With the black British footballers who missed penalties suffering vicious racist abuse online, European football’s big night was not a great one for multiculturalism.

sorry for wasting anyone's time with this load of dogshit.
Next they should conduct an analysis over the lack of white players in African national football teams. Garbage article.
 

GordoDeCentral

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We didn't have to wait to long...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The most striking aspect of Italy’s 26-man squad before it took to the pitch was that, alone among the main contenders, it did not include a single player considered as being of colour <a href="https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc">https://t.co/o4x7zR98bc</a></p>&mdash; The Economist (@TheEconomist) <a href="">July 15, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Soooo racism works?
 

JuveJay

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One football supporter who got in without a ticket told the BBC that stewards were accepting bribes as fans broke in through a disabled entrance.

The man, from Birmingham, said he had joined a social media chat group called "Wembley Jib" where between 3,000 and 4,000 people exchanged tactics for breaking into the stadium.

"Jibbing" is football slang for getting in without paying.

He said: "When we got there at 13:00 we were hanging around and a Wembley steward came up asking if we'd got tickets. We said no and he said 'do you want to give me money to get in?'"

"He said it would be £500 each. I had only taken out £250 for a bribe."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57841689

Also: https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...n-who-stormed-euros-final-defends-his-actions


And this guy, who just looks like a national embarrassment;

He gloated last night: “I’d been on the p*** since half eight in the morning and had had at least 20 cans of Strongbow.

“It was the biggest day of my life. There were no rules that day. All I know is that I loved it all. I was off my face and I loved every minute.”

Perry says he is a veteran “gibber” — a fan who sneaks into games without paying — and did the same for England’s semi-final against Denmark a few days earlier.

He said: “Obviously I didn’t have a ticket. I had gone in as a gibber before so I knew how to get into the stadium already.”

Despite being stopped initially on Sunday and thrown out, shameless Perry simply took off his jumper and distinctive £545 Louis Vuitton bucket hat and tried again.

This time he targeted a different steward, and gave him “a little backhander” at the Covid test result and match ticket area.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15595227/yob-flare-bum-strolled-into-wembley/
 

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Why is it the English can't control themselves when it comes to football? You'd think they would've learned from Heysel.

Not saying anything under the Euros was close to what happened there, but their mentality/attitude still seems to be rotten. Whenever the national team plays these idiots just appear and it ain't such a small minority like some English people make it sound like.

And funny how a lot of them also use the phrase "things like this happens in all countries, it's not just an English problem". Things like that certainly didn't happen in Germany, France, Spain etc.

Russia which is a dictatorship was 10x times as good at maintaining order at the WC in 2018 as far as I remember. Maybe because it is a dictatorship and people know what happens if they don't behave well.
 

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