[ENG] Premiership 2008/2009 (31 Viewers)

[Alen]

PSV faced Milan 2 season in a row, once in the knockout stage, and once in group stage.
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/history/season=2004/round=1971/index.html
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/history/season=2005/round=2201/group=2530.html

Yes, i didn't see that Hiddink was both PSV's and Australia's coach in 2005/06, that's why i didn't count those results.


Btw, i'm boring with the Ranieri-Hiddink h2h results but i found this.
They also played in the Spanish Cup, and watch this:

1998/99, Valencia-Real Madrid 6:0 - 1:2

So, at the end it looks like this:

Ranieri wins 6
Draws 0
Hiddink wins 2

Goal difference: Ranieri 21: 8 Hiddink

Ranieri is destroying him

P.S: And Ranieri was killing Real. No wonder we beat Real twice this season.

 

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[Fred]

Those are some surprising stats Alen.

 

[Alen]

Yeah, kinda.

Here's a video of that Valencia-Real 6:0. You can see how "the worst coach in the world" Ranieri is destroying Hiddink.

 

[Martin]

Yeah, kinda.

Here's a video of that Valencia-Real 6:0. You can see how "the worst coach in the world" Ranieri is destroying Hiddink.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgXStUMC5XA

Actually, I was a Real Madrid fan back then

 

[Red]

The real question is, how well does Hiddink perform with a good team?

I have it for me that Hiddink can make 120% of an average team, he can force players to do certain jobs. Can he do that on a bunch of divas?

I doubt he can do it in about 4 days, which is what he is likely to have before the first game.

 

[bianconero]

Chelsea were, are a bloody good team, and a few weeks does not make them poor. I expect them to come good. Alas.

They should ditch Drogba (they were better without him) immediately.

 

[Red]

Chelsea have brilliant individuals.

They aren't a team at the moment, never mind a good one.


They will sort themselves out, hopefully not for a wee while yet, though.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

drogba is playing like the 35 year old he is

 

[Alen]

drogba is playing like the 35 year old he is

Moratti and passports again?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

you know it!

 

[Red]

Hiddink has been confirmed as Chelsea coach until the end of the season.

He will meet the players later this week.

 

[JCK]

:depressed

 

[Alen]

They better not tell him who is Juve's coach or poor Hiddink will resign.

 

[RAMI-N]

Hiddink has been confirmed as Chelsea coach until the end of the season.

He will meet the players later this week.

That's the last thing we needed before meeting them

 

[CAPITANO]

it happened at the worst time for us

 

[Firestarter]

:depressed

That's the last thing we needed before meeting them

it happened at the worst time for us

What can I say, well there are two things.

Firstly, co-sign.

Secondly, fuck.

EDIT:
Actually after reading Alen's stats I'm optimistic.

 

[Alen]

EDIT:
Actually after reading Alen's stats I'm optimistic.

Hehe, those stats were only for those who thought that Hiddink will destroy Ranieri. I disagree with that and i would have disagreed with that even if instead of Ranieri we had Del Neri, Mihajlovic, Di Carlo, Ballardini or any other serie A coach.

The coach change in Chelsea was going to be negative for us no matter if they hired Grant, Hiddink or Ancelotti, only because Chelsea players disliked Scolari and they simple didn't perform under him. Whoever replaced Scolari was going to give more motivation to Lampard and co., but with so little time until CL starts again, there is absolutely no way someone to do something that requires months of work and practice.

If you think that we're fucked, it's not because they have Hiddink, it's because they don't have Scolari.

P.S: Zvonimir Boban once said that the players, their quality and motivation, are 85% while the coach and his tactics give the other 15%. He worked under Sacchi, Capello, Blazevic, Terim, Zaccheroni etc. and yet he says this. The difference between the coaches is if they give 15%, 10% or 5%, but in any case, according to Boban, it's the players on the pitch who make the difference.
In this case we can say that Chelsea with Hiddink are getting 15%, but with the coach change alone they get the extra 30-40% that go for motivation, discipline and desire to play and win, that they lacked under Scolari.

 

[.zero]

Hiddink now, Carlo later for Chelsea?
Wednesday 11 February, 2009

Russia Coach Guus Hiddink has officially taken charge of Chelsea, but sources suggest Carlo Ancelotti will arrive in the summer.

Luiz Felipe Scolari was sacked from the Stamford Bridge hot seat after last weekend's draw against Hull City, which left the Blues in fourth place in the Premier League.

A number of names were suggested as possible replacements, including Roberto Mancini and Gianfranco Zola.

But Hiddink today confirmed that he will be doing the job for the moment as well as leading Russia.

"One of these days I will go to London. I expect to be there on the field next week," Hiddink told Radio 538.

"It's never enough time to prepare a team in one week but this is an exceptional situation.

“Chelsea have good players and they should be in top form and that should make my job easier.

"There are two scenarios: it goes bad and they say 'go back east' or it goes well, but I'm not thinking that far ahead."

Reports suggest that Hiddink's tenure is a bridging measure until Chelsea can secure No 1 objective Ancelotti.

Ancelotti will certainly stay at Milan until the end of the season, but reports suggest that ex-Barcelona boss Frank Rijkaard and sporting director Leonardo are being considered to replace Carletto.

Channel4.com

 

[JCK]

If you think that we're fucked, it's not because they have Hiddink, it's because they don't have Scolari.

100%

 

[Bjerknes]

P.S: Zvonimir Boban once said that the players, their quality and motivation, are 85% while the coach and his tactics give the other 15%. He worked under Sacchi, Capello, Blazevic, Terim, Zaccheroni etc. and yet he says this. The difference between the coaches is if they give 15%, 10% or 5%, but in any case, according to Boban, it's the players on the pitch who make the difference.
In this case we can say that Chelsea with Hiddink are getting 15%, but with the coach change alone they get the extra 30-40% that go for motivation, discipline and desire to play and win, that they lacked under Scolari.

Boban is right, but he forgot to mention the clause that if the manager provides zero percent towards the development of the team, then that fact automatically ruins its development.