[Emirates Cup] Hamburg vs Juventus (August 3rd 2008) (1 Viewer)
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re-read your posts, you were mentioning the negatives, it doesn't make sense putting Legro to that post. If you can't make yourself clear then it is your problem, insulting everyone for that won't win you this argument..
I never said we had the best squad, stop putting words in my mouth. I said finishing 3rd wasn't a big achievement. It was expected for Juve to make the top 4. That's it! Stop making heroes out of zeroes..
I never said we had the best squad, stop putting words in my mouth. I said finishing 3rd wasn't a big achievement. It was expected for Juve to make the top 4. That's it! Stop making heroes out of zeroes..
I said it's not a big achievement, a lot of you are exaggerating it. We were supposed to end up in top 4, anything less than that would have been a failure. and many Juve fans (including you) said we won't make top 6 at the start because the board wanted to show us that our budget was very small, while we all saw that that wasn't the case. It was their mind games, they wanted to show everyone that the situation is very bad, and convinced many of you I am afraid, and they said they want to make the UEFA cup spot. They all did these just to get that successful image at the end of the season, no matter what happens. we had bigger budget that the rest of Milan and Inter, but they were scared like chickens of not making the top 4.
I really don't know what you are talking about, I see things as they are, I suck at prediction yet I do predict and I don't write players off before I see them play. For me to reach the third spot after spending a season Serie B is a good achievement, and it all ends here as far as I'm concerned.
As for next year if we are in top 4 and qualify from the groups in the CL it will be an even greater achievement that will draw a smile on my face.
As for next year if we are in top 4 and qualify from the groups in the CL it will be an even greater achievement that will draw a smile on my face.
i agree with DIDoz, even iif it was a freindly its a test on how prepared we r for the season. a win in a freindly is not a big deal becuase it shows that we r doing fine. if we loose in a game its also ok, ameaningless game. but against Hamburg we lacked the spark and the willingness to win. just watch the third goal.
anyway we tried some other players and now lets move on we have ManU to beat
anyway we tried some other players and now lets move on we have ManU to beat
R u satisfied with the way we created chances in the arsenal and hamburg game?!! I absalutely don't care about the result in friendlies (though big lose is also bad for our image as a big club) but perfromance matter. Teams like arsenal create many chances for their attackers to score, we on the other hand, create very few chances thoughout the game (if anyone didn't noticed that then they haven't watched the games) ........
I love it how you said these exact things few months back, and you were one of the biggest bashers of the board and Ranieri, and specially when they said that VDV wouldn't fit in this league. And now you are with them no matter what happens or they say. You laugh at those who bashes the losses of friendly matches, but when we win against Dortmund, you make fun of Vinman and Cronios. I know very well how you will change your view few months later opposite of what you are saying today. :eyebrows:
I would like you to show me where I bashed the board for not buying VdV, I simply laughed at the fact that Ranieri said that such a player is not good for Serie A.
And who is supporting the board no matter what they do? Yes I do laugh at those who bash the board but does this mean that I support them? No, I simply don't but I don't like to waste energy on doing something that will not get me anywhere. I'd rather look at the good things no matter how small they are and enjoy them. I'd rather look at the positive stuff even if they are 1% of the whole picture and get entertained. Do you know why? Because for me Juventus is a hobby and I don't think anyone enjoys a hobby that frustrates him or make him angry.
But if you want to be angry and frustrated while supporting your club, then it's not my problem and don't judge me if I provoke on the issue, it is just something I can't understand.
And who is supporting the board no matter what they do? Yes I do laugh at those who bash the board but does this mean that I support them? No, I simply don't but I don't like to waste energy on doing something that will not get me anywhere. I'd rather look at the good things no matter how small they are and enjoy them. I'd rather look at the positive stuff even if they are 1% of the whole picture and get entertained. Do you know why? Because for me Juventus is a hobby and I don't think anyone enjoys a hobby that frustrates him or make him angry.
But if you want to be angry and frustrated while supporting your club, then it's not my problem and don't judge me if I provoke on the issue, it is just something I can't understand.
Who said I am angry? Like any normal fan, I am discussing football, and giving my opinion on what we are doing. I am not a hardcore hooligan neither. I know very well that VDV or the likes would add a lot to this squad, and when we miss the chances to sign them, I feel the need to express my feeling, that's why we are here, aren't we? It's not me who is having personal issues with anyone disagrees with me, you know?
You are saying you don't support the board, but for every little critic against them, you always oppose the criticizers. Seriously, apart from the Amauri deal (which also wasn't necessary, since we are dead poor ), what kind of joke is this transfer campaign?? Chimenti, Knezevic, Ekdal, Poulsen??? is this what we lacked last season, and is this enough for CL? some people get off the limit they will bash no matter what, but others do have point to bash this board.
You are saying you don't support the board, but for every little critic against them, you always oppose the criticizers. Seriously, apart from the Amauri deal (which also wasn't necessary, since we are dead poor ), what kind of joke is this transfer campaign?? Chimenti, Knezevic, Ekdal, Poulsen??? is this what we lacked last season, and is this enough for CL? some people get off the limit they will bash no matter what, but others do have point to bash this board.
Very true.
Finishing 3rd when you're just coming off Serie B, not to mention the difficult period our players passed through is seriously more than achievement. Everyone, almost everyone were pretty much scared that we wont even make the 4th place. I myself, I'm really satisfied with what we did last season and I see no reason why some of us aren't satisfied. We are Juventus but that doesn't mean you're obliged to win t he title right after playing the likes of Albinoleffe and Bari in Serie B.
Finishing 3rd when you're just coming off Serie B, not to mention the difficult period our players passed through is seriously more than achievement. Everyone, almost everyone were pretty much scared that we wont even make the 4th place. I myself, I'm really satisfied with what we did last season and I see no reason why some of us aren't satisfied. We are Juventus but that doesn't mean you're obliged to win t he title right after playing the likes of Albinoleffe and Bari in Serie B.
Maybe you are not angry but others are which is why I feel more powerful, anger is a weak point that I like to poke. This is why I oppose the criticizers, they do it with anger, they spend a lot of energy and it makes me want to suck more energy from them. Do you know why? Because I can do it.
Where did you see me express my joy on our transfer campaign? The only thing that amused me was the fact that we got Poulsen, one because he's Scandinavian and this pisses off Azzurri fanboys and two because he has beef with several of our enemies. I didn't even say that the transfer campaign is good, I didn't even predict anything for the coming season. I prefer to see before I judge. To say that Knezevic is a horrible player before even seeing him touch a ball is not something I would say.
As I said, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want exactly as I am entitled to oppose them whenever I find it appropriate.
Where did you see me express my joy on our transfer campaign? The only thing that amused me was the fact that we got Poulsen, one because he's Scandinavian and this pisses off Azzurri fanboys and two because he has beef with several of our enemies. I didn't even say that the transfer campaign is good, I didn't even predict anything for the coming season. I prefer to see before I judge. To say that Knezevic is a horrible player before even seeing him touch a ball is not something I would say.
As I said, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want exactly as I am entitled to oppose them whenever I find it appropriate.
Thank you! I see it just the way you do!
Well, we were bad. Against Arsenal, it was an away match. Hard to play as Arsenal also like to play a quick football which is hard to defend and still, we won it. AND IT WAS A FRIENDLY!
Against Hamburg we did play quite well in the second half. People forget that the scoreline should have been at least a draw. In the second half, we had a couple of good chances and an "offside" goal. The last two goals scored by Hamburg, were goals scored out of nothing and it was clearly lack of concentration, maybe because IT WAS A FRIENDLY!
Also, I don't know what the people are talking about our Mercato, which many consider to be a joke! Why? Our starting line up was good last year. Hell, we didn't loose against the top teams!!!! We were unlucky and (maybe) had motivation problems against the smaller clubs. But I liked the formation. DP and Trez up front were good. (41 goals together)
Amauri makes this striking package deadly. Midfield.....what did we lack in midfield??? Camo and Nedved were and are still untouchable. Marchionni showed that he can fill in if Camo is injured and he stays healthy. Giovinco......well, we all know that he can be the next best thing in Italy. In Center....Zanetti and Momo will be the starting pair. Momo is untouchable and considering what Zanetti did for this club, when the club needed him, it would be unfair, to kick him out. He was also very good last year. He can play deadly passes and is a leader. Poulsen was a good addition. Along with Marchisio we are set there. The later 2 can step in and should do well. They prooved to be good and talented players. We also got 2 good central defenders, and considering that Andrade hardly played last year, he can be called a new player. De Ceglie should be the guy, who can take over from Molinaro, so I don't get it. I really don't know what the problem is.
I really think, its this Brazilian doing fancy footwork or names like Quaresma, Van der Vaart or Diego that people are missing and why people are complaining......
I really think Juve can get away with a trophy this year. We added needed depth to our squad and our rival in the Qualis for the CL is Artmedia, who shouldn't be a problem. Its nearly a month untill the start of Serie A, and with the addition of Marchisio, De Ceglie and Giovinco, the squad will be a lot better.......but yeah, we lost a friendly
Well, we were bad. Against Arsenal, it was an away match. Hard to play as Arsenal also like to play a quick football which is hard to defend and still, we won it. AND IT WAS A FRIENDLY!
Against Hamburg we did play quite well in the second half. People forget that the scoreline should have been at least a draw. In the second half, we had a couple of good chances and an "offside" goal. The last two goals scored by Hamburg, were goals scored out of nothing and it was clearly lack of concentration, maybe because IT WAS A FRIENDLY!
Also, I don't know what the people are talking about our Mercato, which many consider to be a joke! Why? Our starting line up was good last year. Hell, we didn't loose against the top teams!!!! We were unlucky and (maybe) had motivation problems against the smaller clubs. But I liked the formation. DP and Trez up front were good. (41 goals together)
Amauri makes this striking package deadly. Midfield.....what did we lack in midfield??? Camo and Nedved were and are still untouchable. Marchionni showed that he can fill in if Camo is injured and he stays healthy. Giovinco......well, we all know that he can be the next best thing in Italy. In Center....Zanetti and Momo will be the starting pair. Momo is untouchable and considering what Zanetti did for this club, when the club needed him, it would be unfair, to kick him out. He was also very good last year. He can play deadly passes and is a leader. Poulsen was a good addition. Along with Marchisio we are set there. The later 2 can step in and should do well. They prooved to be good and talented players. We also got 2 good central defenders, and considering that Andrade hardly played last year, he can be called a new player. De Ceglie should be the guy, who can take over from Molinaro, so I don't get it. I really don't know what the problem is.
I really think, its this Brazilian doing fancy footwork or names like Quaresma, Van der Vaart or Diego that people are missing and why people are complaining......
I really think Juve can get away with a trophy this year. We added needed depth to our squad and our rival in the Qualis for the CL is Artmedia, who shouldn't be a problem. Its nearly a month untill the start of Serie A, and with the addition of Marchisio, De Ceglie and Giovinco, the squad will be a lot better.......but yeah, we lost a friendly
Yeah, but sometimes you need a Brazilian doing fancy footwork or names like Quaresma, van der Vaart or Diego to actually feed the 'deadly' striking force, because without any killer-balls, throughballs, and crosses they cant do shit what can they do, track back? No, thats where Poulsen, Zanett, & Momo come in they can win the ball, which is good but we need a flair player who can distribute run the play.