Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (8 Viewers)

[Bisco]

life would be sooooooooooooooooo much better if people like erdogan just mind there own business and focus on his beloved turkey and leave us the fuck alone turkey is not egypt we have a different setting altogether. any ways life seems to be getting back to normal. P,S TURK do your self a favor and don't say forged cases bec you dont know shit about what was going on in this country. like i said soon very soon you will know a lot about the very people you are defending now.

any way bisco over and out....

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

the gall on this shit for brains turk... Stay strong Ahmed

 

[Bisco]

the gall on this shit for brains turk... Stay strong Ahmed

please forum members open your tv's and see tahrir and the presidential palace may be i'm dellusional ( there are people in every city in egypt now orchestrating the demo's, may be b81, wahdan, and hist are on some kind of drug. this is the minority turk is talking about. off to the presidential palace bec tahrir is sooo crowded there is no place for an ant!!!!! catch you guys later.


thank you all for your warm feelings. even you alen for terrorizing me about my spelling

 

[Nzoric]

You also can't run a country by arresting elected president with forged series of crimes whenever he does something you don't like.

That's the point, he needs to face a trial - which is why I used 'allegedly' almost exclusively when writing about his crimes. So we agree that he shouldn't be able to run, given that he is, allegedly, a criminal?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

life would be sooooooooooooooooo much better if people like erdogan just mind there own business and focus on his beloved turkey and leave us the fuck alone turkey is not egypt we have a different setting altogether. any ways life seems to be getting back to normal. P,S TURK do your self a favor and don't say forged cases bec you dont know shit about what was going on in this country. like i said soon very soon you will know a lot about the very people you are defending now.

any way bisco over and out....

But he just can't as whole region is his business. It's almost like he replied you minutes ago. It was something like ''They ask why do you care about Egypt? Go read the history, you shall know why.''

Life is getting back to normal, really?

Russian President Vladimir Putin warned on Sunday that the standoff in Egypt between supporters and foes of deposed President Mohamed Morsi threatened to degenerate into a civil war.

“Syria is already in the grips of a civil war, unfortunately enough, and Egypt is moving in that direction,” Russian news agencies quoted Putin as saying while on a visit to Kazakhstan.

That's the point, he needs to face a trial - which is why I used 'allegedly' almost exclusively when writing about his crimes. So we agree that he shouldn't be able to run, given that he is, allegedly, a criminal?

I told you, decision of court under military regime will not be recognized by people, even if he is really guilty of something.

 

[Nzoric]

Putin . Come the fuck on Turk.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Turkish PM urges 'so-called’ new rulers of Egypt to release Morsi
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...morsi.aspx?pageID=238&nID=50232&NewsCatID=338

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has again slammed the military overthrow of elected Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, calling for his “immediate” release.

“Any attitude that can drag [Egypt] into confrontation should be avoided. We expect that all politicians, Morsi and the prime minister [Hisham Qandil] in the first instance, will be immediately released,” Erdoğan said today during the opening of a new metro line in Istanbul.

“Egypt’s so-called administration may make statements such as 'Turkey is meddling in our internal affairs.’ But we are expressing that we stand with the Egyptian people and our principles,” he said.

Morsi was toppled July 3 when the army suspended the Constitution and appointed the head of the Constitutional Court as the interim president following four days of massive protests. The controversial, Muslim Brotherhood-backed president is currently being held in military custody in an undisclosed location.

'We don’t side with the putschists’

Erdoğan also raised his rhetoric against the countries that have shied away from describing the takeover as a “coup.”

“The European Union has not yet made a statement condemning the coup. Where is your EU acquis? The United Nations hasn’t made a resolute statement. Some Muslim countries have not rebuked the coup with courage. Those who abandon the Egypt under Morsi’s administration by backing the putschists are punishing the people,” he said, adding that only Turkey and Qatar had supported the deposed president.

“May nobody deceive anybody. In Egypt, a coup has been staged. And a coup, whomever it targets, is bad and prejudicial. It murders democracy and the future. Those who don’t call a coup a coup are the supporters of a coup,” Erdoğan said.

“We are not siding with the putschists. We are siding with the result of the ballot,” he said, adding that Morsi had been targeted by “plots” from inside and outside since he was elected.

“Why can those who see Tahrir Square not see al-Adawiyah Square? Aren’t those Egyptian people, too?” he asked, referring to the squares were anti-Morsi protesters and supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood have gathered in Cairo.

Erdoğan also criticized the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), accusing it of not condemning the coup strongly enough.

July/07/2013

 

[Bisco]

Turkish PM urges 'so-called’ new rulers of Egypt to release Morsi
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...morsi.aspx?pageID=238&nID=50232&NewsCatID=338

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has again slammed the military overthrow of elected Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi, calling for his “immediate” release.

“Any attitude that can drag [Egypt] into confrontation should be avoided. We expect that all politicians, Morsi and the prime minister [Hisham Qandil] in the first instance, will be immediately released,” Erdoğan said today during the opening of a new metro line in Istanbul.

“Egypt’s so-called administration may make statements such as 'Turkey is meddling in our internal affairs.’ But we are expressing that we stand with the Egyptian people and our principles,” he said.

Morsi was toppled July 3 when the army suspended the Constitution and appointed the head of the Constitutional Court as the interim president following four days of massive protests. The controversial, Muslim Brotherhood-backed president is currently being held in military custody in an undisclosed location.

'We don’t side with the putschists’

Erdoğan also raised his rhetoric against the countries that have shied away from describing the takeover as a “coup.”

“The European Union has not yet made a statement condemning the coup. Where is your EU acquis? The United Nations hasn’t made a resolute statement. Some Muslim countries have not rebuked the coup with courage. Those who abandon the Egypt under Morsi’s administration by backing the putschists are punishing the people,” he said, adding that only Turkey and Qatar had supported the deposed president.

“May nobody deceive anybody. In Egypt, a coup has been staged. And a coup, whomever it targets, is bad and prejudicial. It murders democracy and the future. Those who don’t call a coup a coup are the supporters of a coup,” Erdoğan said.

“We are not siding with the putschists. We are siding with the result of the ballot,” he said, adding that Morsi had been targeted by “plots” from inside and outside since he was elected.

“Why can those who see Tahrir Square not see al-Adawiyah Square? Aren’t those Egyptian people, too?” he asked, referring to the squares were anti-Morsi protesters and supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood have gathered in Cairo.

Erdoğan also criticized the main opposition Republican People’s Party (CHP), accusing it of not condemning the coup strongly enough.

July/07/2013

bec its one square for pro morsi against the entire country!!!! do u even know where adwiyah square is??

tahrir
ethadia presidential palace ( where i am)
kobba palace ( 5 min walk from my house)
aswan
asyuit
elmenia
mansora
portsaid
suez
alexandria
in cairo:

maspero, shobra avenue, 6th of october i,e juhinaa square

all the above are anti cunt face vs one or two squares!! besides let me give you a news flash!!! its not a dick measuring contest life has moved on khalas!!!!

i'm dying to know how are the MB expecting to rule this country after what happened??? i mean if in the fantasy they believe in they do return and morsy is back how will he rule the country after all this??

 

[swag]

That's the point, he needs to face a trial - which is why I used 'allegedly' almost exclusively when writing about his crimes. So we agree that he shouldn't be able to run, given that he is, allegedly, a criminal?

Berlusconi has been slithering for quite a while himself... that hasn't been a good thing for Italy.

But in the U.S., candidates have been knocked out for crimes all the time. Often by their own party if something is scandalous. At other times by governmental checks and balances, as what happened with Nixon or California Governor Gray Davis (which is how Arnold Schwarzenegger became governor, btw).

Giving leaders a pass on crimes, as happened with Berlusconi, has typically hobbled democracies. Democracies only work when people are included in power, not excluded.

 

[Enron]

Impeachment is part of the process. Military intervention, not so much.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

bec its one square for pro morsi against the entire country!!!! do u even know where adwiyah square is??

He also said that they are saying tahrir is the picture of Egypt but election is the most clear picture of nation. It's really not a dick measuring contest as you said but you guys trying to show it like that by filling the streets after getting a defeat in election.

Don't come up with ''most of those who supported Morsi withdrew their support''. Let the election happen without banned people and parties then we shall see if that's the case.

 

[Enron]

bec its one square for pro morsi against the entire country!!!! do u even know where adwiyah square is??

tahrir
ethadia presidential palace ( where i am)
kobba palace ( 5 min walk from my house)
aswan
asyuit
elmenia
mansora
portsaid
suez
alexandria
in cairo:

maspero, shobra avenue, 6th of october i,e juhinaa square

all the above are anti cunt face vs one or two squares!! besides let me give you a news flash!!! its not a dick measuring contest life has moved on khalas!!!!

i'm dying to know how are the MB expecting to rule this country after what happened??? i mean if in the fantasy they believe in they do return and morsy is back how will he rule the country after all this??

Is MB actually the majority in Egypt? From what I've read on the situation, the fact that they are not is what led them to get in trouble in the first place. Is that a correct undersanding?

 

[Nzoric]

Impeachment is part of the process. Military intervention, not so much.

When the asshole is passing his own constitution then he needs to be removed as quickly as possible. Can't very well impeach an (aspiring) dicktator.

 

[Bisco]

Is MB actually the majority in Egypt? From what I've read on the situation, the fact that they are not is what led them to get in trouble in the first place. Is that a correct undersanding?

my dear enron, the mb is not a majority at all, they are 500,000 and these are over rated estimations!!!! egypt is 90 million! so they make a very tiny part of egyptains. salafists are 4-5 million!

what got them in trouble is how they handled the country, how they wanted to take every thing for themselves, and exclude every one in the country.

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When the asshole is passing his own constitution then he needs to be removed as quickly as possible. Can't very well impeach an (aspiring) dicktator.

grazie saved me typing and making mistakes and getting on alen's nerves

 

[swag]

Impeachment is part of the process. Military intervention, not so much.

But what's the process when there's no process for impeachment -- that's the problem.

He also said that they are saying tahrir is the picture of Egypt but election is the most clear picture of nation. It's really not a dick measuring contest as you said but you guys trying to show it like that by filling the streets after getting a defeat in election.

Don't come up with ''most of those who supported Morsi withdrew their support''. Let the election happen without banned people and parties then let's see if that's the case.

15 million people in the streets probably constitutes the largest political gathering in human history, at least given what I read on the BBC News service. For a nation of 80 million, you can dismiss that as a dick-measuring contest if you like, but that sounds more like a fundamental problem rather than merely window dressing.

But elections need to include the MBs. Ideally the MBs would have been revealed as political hacks in three years, but at the rate Morsi was embedding the clowns that would have doubled Egypt's problems: an inept party that now had three more years of corruption to resist public change of control.

 

[TrezJuve]

Bisco, what do you think of Barradei? I heard he's liked by Egypt's youth, but that he doesn't have real experience even if he stood in politics shadow for some time.

 

[swag]

Bisco, what do you think of Barradei? I heard he's liked by Egypt's youth, but that he doesn't have real experience even if he stood in politics shadow for some time.

I hear the trouble is that the ultra-conservatives don't want him because they think he's too liberal.

 

[Enron]

When the asshole is passing his own constitution then he needs to be removed as quickly as possible. Can't very well impeach an (aspiring) dicktator.

You have to have system of checks and balances. Otherwise every time a new guy gets elected he's going to try and take supreme power. You can only rely on military intervention for so long before the military decides to run the country itself.

 

[Bisco]

Bisco, what do you think of Barradei? I heard he's liked by Egypt's youth, but that he doesn't have real experience even if he stood in politics shadow for some time.

he is a good man, he is well educated, has a good image internationally which is sth egypt needs at the moment. he has been defamed typical islamists style you know and off course to the un-educated they believe this bec the islamists sweet coat there lies with islamic slogans and when asked yaa sheik do u know what this means?? like what does liberal mean?? he says no but its un-islamic...i,e they talk shit.

i like him, i think its his ideas we need not sure he can handle this on his own mind you but he can lay the beans for the future bec he knows education is the most important thing that will really life this country. don't forget this is the guy who master minded the revolution and he did this while mubarak was in power and believe it or not the MB supported him indirectly before they turned on him after they came to power calling him remnants from the previous regime. the youth love him massively and the educated class def.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

15 million people in the streets probably constitutes the largest political gathering in human history, at least given what I read on the BBC News service. For a nation of 80 million, you can dismiss that as a dick-measuring contest if you like, but that sounds more like a fundamental problem rather than merely window dressing.

But elections need to include the MBs. Ideally the MBs would have been revealed as political hacks in three years, but at the rate Morsi was embedding the clowns that would have doubled Egypt's problems: an inept party that now had three more years of corruption to resist public change of control.

Then after the appoinment of a puppet by army, it is Muslims turn to gather and overthrew him. What a circus that would be. A great entertainment is already provided for most dear neighbours of them. Elections or streets, they should choose wisely.