Egypt: from 2011 demonstrations to today (8 Viewers)

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
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why?

isnt that the exact problem with some muslim organisations/groups, they claim to be the true muslims? And in that case when you refuse them as being muslims you do the exact thing urself?

good fella is'nt completely wrong though maddy, they did start out as a religious group with no political agenda but that quickly changed specially with the collapse of the ottman empire. then in the late 70's with sadat trying to bring about tv like democracey he gave them some space to maneuver bec back then the socialist and the nassirtes had some strong grounds and from there they started to mingle with politics in egypt. in the begining of the 80's in my honest opinion they started using there islamic back grounds as a means to reach the top and now that they r in the top they use there vague understanding of islam which by the way has a lot of conflicts with Islam its self and with the azher which is the moderate islamic body in egypt. hence why goodfella said there is nothing islamic about them and i share the same opinion about them. they are a bunch of hypocrites that preach what they dont do and do what they dont preach.
 

Goodfella

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Nov 11, 2012
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good fella is'nt completely wrong though maddy, they did start out as a religious group with no political agenda but that quickly changed specially with the collapse of the ottman empire. then in the late 70's with sadat trying to bring about tv like democracey he gave them some space to maneuver bec back then the socialist and the nassirtes had some strong grounds and from there they started to mingle with politics in egypt. in the begining of the 80's in my honest opinion they started using there islamic back grounds as a means to reach the top and now that they r in the top they use there vague understanding of islam which by the way has a lot of conflicts with Islam its self and with the azher which is the moderate islamic body in egypt. hence why goodfella said there is nothing islamic about them and i share the same opinion about them. they are a bunch of hypocrites that preach what they dont do and do what they dont preach.
:agree:

Munafiq Brotherhood.
 

Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
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this man knows what he is saying exactly!! :D supermorsi is going to get a shit storm soon. the amount of people falling in his first year of presidency is scary not to mention the ancient pound is getting some gang bang action against the $ so yaa welcome ya welcome increased prices in an already crappy economy.

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:agree:

Munafiq Brotherhood.
exactly :)
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
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good fella is'nt completely wrong though maddy, they did start out as a religious group with no political agenda but that quickly changed specially with the collapse of the ottman empire. then in the late 70's with sadat trying to bring about tv like democracey he gave them some space to maneuver bec back then the socialist and the nassirtes had some strong grounds and from there they started to mingle with politics in egypt. in the begining of the 80's in my honest opinion they started using there islamic back grounds as a means to reach the top and now that they r in the top they use there vague understanding of islam which by the way has a lot of conflicts with Islam its self and with the azher which is the moderate islamic body in egypt. hence why goodfella said there is nothing islamic about them and i share the same opinion about them. they are a bunch of hypocrites that preach what they dont do and do what they dont preach.
i cant argue against this since i have very little knowledge on egyptian matters, which is why i didnt mention the muslim brotherhood specifically but "some muslim organisations/groups".

my problem is that the statement that some arent true muslims. i know enough of islam - and other religions - to know that very few scholars agree fully on what is the true islam. so it creates a very confrontative climate when one claims to be true.

how can you have a fruitful and open-minded theological discussion with a theist who already know the answers?

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u missed some good fun with [rus] earlier :p
 

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