Does God exist? (William Lane Craig vs Peter Atkins debate) (170 Viewers)

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I never said he's a good player. I was only saying that his performance last night was not as horrific as people made it out to be.

 

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[Fred]

I'm still insulted. I don't actively engage in trolling here. I've tried my best to have rational discussions in every chance I get.

An apology from you would be appreciated.

That is the general case around here, i don't talk about exceptions. I go through pages and pages of trolling, there might be a few rational posts here and there, i'm not saying its all 100% trolling.

Also, i don't apologize to infidels

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You really hurt my feelings.

-rep!

 

[Fred]

You really hurt my feelings.

-rep!

By calling you an infidel?

Come on man, you know i love you despite that.

Looking at some of your posts here, you do seem to be one of the few who attempt to actually debate. But your part of a minority, thats the point.

Btw, Ice, people who think Poulsen is a good player aren't ones to talk

 

[acmilan]

Fred can be really hurtful sometimes ... still, he is headed for paradise, unlike you, Sheiky

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Fred can be really hurtful sometimes ... still, he is headed for paradise, unlike you, Sheiky

Bullshit! I'm praying to Shiva and getting his ass sent down to Naraka!

 

[JuveJay]

Fred can be really hurtful sometimes ... still, he is headed for paradise

Arsenal's 2003-04 season?

 

[Raz]

By calling you an infidel?

Come on man, you know i love you despite that.

Looking at some of your posts here, you do seem to be one of the few who attempt to actually debate. But your part of a minority, thats the point.

Btw, Ice, people who think Poulsen is a good player aren't ones to talk

Oh but he actually is. Forza Poulsen!

 

[Ford Prefect]

My comments weren't directed at anyone in particular. I was commenting on the general nature of this thread these days, its just become a trolling match between the two sides.

Same as what sheik said, I don't get involved in this stuff unless theres something to discuss rather than what matador did for the past two day. I used to have some fun debates with you! .

 

[king Ale]

But by being omnipotent and doing nothing to prevent those actions, he's automatically complicit in those acts too.

God in religious scriptures is described as an omnipotent creator who's bestowed man with free will. You do have control on your acts thus you are responsible for them all, good or bad. God is described to be all knowing, he knows what you'll do next but this is you who does it. Everything good or evil happening in the world is directly associated with the man, otherwise what would be the point of rewarding good (if it was all god's) or punishing bad conduct in the afterlife (if man was created bad)?

 

[JuveJay]

Damn, God has more get out clauses than Berlusconi. I bet he didn't know I was going to post that.

 

[Fred]

Same as what sheik said, I don't get involved in this stuff unless theres something to discuss rather than what matador did for the past two day. I used to have some fun debates with you! .

Ya, we did.

FFS, now everyone wants me to mention him by the name. Should have kept my trap shut.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

God in religious scriptures is described as an omnipotent creator who's bestowed man with free will. You do have control on your acts thus you are responsible for them all, good or bad. God is described to be all knowing, he knows what you'll do next but this is you who does it. Everything good or evil happening in the world is directly associated with the man, otherwise what would be the point of rewarding good (if it was all god's) or punishing bad conduct in the afterlife (if man was created bad)?

I don't buy it. It seems like an excuse to not demonstrate his omnipotence. If he already knows what we're gonna do, then can't he just skip the "us doing it" part and simply get to the "rewarding and punishing" part?

Also, I don't think god gave us free will. We were born with it, and he's simply taking credit for giving us that. I think it's BS.

 

[Fred]

I don't buy it. It seems like an excuse to not demonstrate his omnipotence. If he already knows what we're gonna do, then can't he just skip the "us doing it" part and simply get to the "rewarding and punishing" part?

Also, I don't think god gave us free will. We were born with it, and he's simply taking credit for giving us that. I think it's BS.

So you acknowledge his existence, but you don't believe he gave human beings free will?

Well at least you finally admit his existence. Thats a positive first step, you are seeing the light my friend

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

So you acknowledge his existence, but you don't believe he gave human beings free will?

Well at least you finally admit his existence. Thats a positive first step, you are seeing the light my friend

For the sake of argument.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Now thank Jeeeeeeeesusa and wipe your brow.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Now thank Jeeeeeeeesusa and wipe your brow.

Thank you, Krishna.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I don't buy it. It seems like an excuse to not demonstrate his omnipotence. If he already knows what we're gonna do, then can't he just skip the "us doing it" part and simply get to the "rewarding and punishing" part?

Also, I don't think god gave us free will. We were born with it, and he's simply taking credit for giving us that. I think it's BS.

Bravo, great solid arguments.

 

[Martin]

Get out of this thread, Den. It's a waste of a life

 

[Fred]

Always rely on Deneb to nitpick faults in your argument