Are you saying the people on here get to watch matches? No they do not, they rely on a very select few to give them match reports. Constant generalisation and self righteousness?
I think Dom watched his fair share of Serie B matches, Ditto Sateeh and Seven. And Arif, you are a good man!
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No they do not, they rely on a very select few to give them match reports. Constant generalisation and self righteousness?
I respect you man, and I think you are a wonderful poster but this sounds awfully generalising to me.
As a left back even at 40 he would always be superior to Chiellini in my eyes....Always a good indicator of a player who has not fulfilled potential of earlier promise and perhaps would never do so...
And I reckon this contradicts the whole theme of your posts given you wrote
I did not see any serieb matches save for the first against Rimini and I do nto believe in highlights at all but I saw italy versus England under21 and he sucked at left back, his crosses were just pathetic. He how old? 23? and he still playing for the under21's?
And as a side note, Chiellini already been capped by Azzurri. I saw him play against Scotland in San Siro under Marcello Lippi when he was mere 21. And we all know Italia is notorious for being slow bringing their kids through the ranks, which is good in my opinion. They get experience of winning, and get competitive minutes on the game, instead of sitting bench on every International Weekend. Not every kids are as good as Del Piero, Rooney, Ronaldo, C.Ronaldo when age 19. And who are to say they can't make it as a player?
You make arguments and explain why you make your arguments, I have respect for people.
I couldnt agree more. You right on this principle, and forum is strictly for the purpose debating. I think Dom was a bit out to call out like he did, but your posts was extremely disparaging on Chiellini, and Dom being a fan naturally took offence to that.
Makele or Roberto Carlos but I think they would be effective, my personal feeling on the player is totally irrelevant.
As you said these are champions and they bring intangibles both on the pitch and locker room we fans probably won't appreciate. I think Carlos makes economical and sporting sense since there are many young elements on this team, and his presence is more than welcome. As for Makelele, I am defintely worried about the age. Age matter, not because of fitness, but its a most definite signal of milage player has, and even the best ones have wear and tear. This naturally mean more injuries, missing large portion of match. I am glad you mentioned Milan, because they have Kaladze, who would walk over almost anyteam in the world. And he did admirable job filling in for Maldini and Nesta this year. In fact I would argue, Kaladze has been their most important defensive player for that vital 4th place. You can't have 3 30+ starters and 3 other back ups because of it.
Now back to Chiellini. I think we would make a great CB. Even Cashiraghi can recognise that. Its always nice to have some pace down the back line to cover the defence, especially if you don't quite have enough ballwinners or organisation in the middle of the park. And Italia looked a lot more stable once Chiellini was covering that African forward for England. Oh, Andreolli is slower than my Gran, and Raggi got to be one of the shittest fullback I have ever seen. And Kudos for sateeh pointing out Nocerino - its evident he can play.:strong:
It sounds awfully generalising doesn't it? But that is what people do always all the time. I do it, Dominic do it, Andy do it, Jacques do it, and you do it as well. Of course it goes against principal, but as you said you can't always watch every single match, every single players. Heck, I don't know too much about Gabriel Milito, since I don't watch La Liga too much. But you people sometimes have to make decisions, and its better to take someone else's word for it, than simply ruling it out, because it doesnt fit into your principle.
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