Had a chance to set up Morata for an easy tap-in today. Something even this poor form Morata couldn’t miss, and he was wide open and onside too. But chose to dilly dally with the ball in the box instead, looking for his own shot. Then, after the Morata pass was no longer available, he could have pulled it back to Chiesa, for a good shot at goal, but decided instead to keep dribbling and eventually pass it right back out of the box when he was fully closed down and couldn’t force a shot.
I miss the Ronaldo that alongside scoring also creates numerous chances for his teammates. He’s gone missing the past few months.
I miss the Ronaldo that alongside scoring also creates numerous chances for his teammates. He’s gone missing the past few months.
Neither is Dybala though. And you pretend he is. He’s a pure poacher. And that’s about it. We’ve tried to use him otherwise, but it doesn’t suit him well. Ronaldo when in an unselfish mood is a far better assist man.
And this is the biggest problem with their pairing. Both are best playing in and around the box, as goalscorers.
And this is the biggest problem with their pairing. Both are best playing in and around the box, as goalscorers.
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If there are stats of highest turnovers among Juventus players, I'm sure he'll be #1 on the list.
He shouldn't participate in build up play anymore or as often as he does and hope his fanboys don't bring instances of that odd cross or pass which happens in like once in a bluemoon. Over these past few months, lots of dangerous counter attacks have originated from either Ronaldo making a misplaced pass or getting dispossessed easily. It was funny to see him getting bullied by Torino players yesterday who found it so easy to steal the ball off him.
Problem is when something goes wrong and we have to chase the game, our pussy players turn to Ronaldo, pass the ball to him and hope he creates something out of nothing. This beta mentality needs to be eradicated.
We need a proper structure in the first place. We need some of these WC players to make 'sacrifises' in their game so that we could achieve better results.
He shouldn't participate in build up play anymore or as often as he does and hope his fanboys don't bring instances of that odd cross or pass which happens in like once in a bluemoon. Over these past few months, lots of dangerous counter attacks have originated from either Ronaldo making a misplaced pass or getting dispossessed easily. It was funny to see him getting bullied by Torino players yesterday who found it so easy to steal the ball off him.
Problem is when something goes wrong and we have to chase the game, our pussy players turn to Ronaldo, pass the ball to him and hope he creates something out of nothing. This beta mentality needs to be eradicated.
We need a proper structure in the first place. We need some of these WC players to make 'sacrifises' in their game so that we could achieve better results.
At that rate even berna would slot one in.
Anyway, for us to transition he needs to leave.
There is no middle ground. His wages cost us a wc mid / season. He is on 60 million gross / year.
And if we were in a better position financially then we could have afford to keep him.
-200 million incoming loss means we probably can't keep him anymore.
Anyway, for us to transition he needs to leave.
There is no middle ground. His wages cost us a wc mid / season. He is on 60 million gross / year.
And if we were in a better position financially then we could have afford to keep him.
-200 million incoming loss means we probably can't keep him anymore.
Not fully convinced if ourselfs should necessarily get rid of him seeing the number of goals he scored and the way we tend to replace star players (downgrade them to mediocre ones) but I am certain that no serious club in Europe would still agree to pay him the insane wages he is getting with us rn, probably the only place he’d fetch anything close to 20m/y would be in MLS or China, and for good reasons, which also begs the question of how willing is he himself to move on from the sinking ship if no better offer comes his way? Going to be a long summer i guess...
He is still a good striker/poacher but there’s no denying his selfishness weights down on the rest of the team, also his overall contribution during a game despite his goals or asissts also always involves several giveaways that result in counters for the opposition or several attempted blocked shots that could have been a better pass in the build-up... not even sure what to think anymore, he is great and all but the experiment had overall failed and Juventus as a team has continuously regressed competitively instead of taking that last leap towards conquering Europe, cumulated together with the fact we now lost even the Scudetto and are even unsure atm of a top4 finish there’s probably no better time to move on from whatever it is we are witnessing this days and hopefully build a real team capable of competing for major trophies again starting from next season.
He is still a good striker/poacher but there’s no denying his selfishness weights down on the rest of the team, also his overall contribution during a game despite his goals or asissts also always involves several giveaways that result in counters for the opposition or several attempted blocked shots that could have been a better pass in the build-up... not even sure what to think anymore, he is great and all but the experiment had overall failed and Juventus as a team has continuously regressed competitively instead of taking that last leap towards conquering Europe, cumulated together with the fact we now lost even the Scudetto and are even unsure atm of a top4 finish there’s probably no better time to move on from whatever it is we are witnessing this days and hopefully build a real team capable of competing for major trophies again starting from next season.
I would add sowing disharmony in the dressing room, indirectly, by getting preferential tratament, having almost ×3 the wages of our second best payed player . Also he seems intangible so i doubt anyone can question his actions in the dressing room.
Imagine Morata complaining why he doesn't pass the ball to him,when he is open. A valid complaint but would never happen because he is being put on a piedestal.
Obviously not his fault but him being here contributes to that .
Imagine Morata complaining why he doesn't pass the ball to him,when he is open. A valid complaint but would never happen because he is being put on a piedestal.
Obviously not his fault but him being here contributes to that .
lol, some people
even in this shit Juve, one of the worst ever, he manages to get around and score plenty, be effective, had it not been for him we'd stand 10th.
Can't even imagine what he would have done if he had proper midfield behind him, and not headless trio.
He's also bringing us tons of cash. Everyone mentions his wages yet nobody takes into consideration the amount of money and popularity we reached because of him. Even in this grandpa age he's better than our "fresh young talented players". Just sell Dybala and keep upgrading the squad because he'll bring what a striker is supposed to bring: goals. Morata - Dybala - Chiesa surely isn't a trio that I'd like to see next season. We won't get much from Dybala as a winger, we've seen that, so rather sell him for some big bucks when we can. Use Ronaldo as much as we can. Just focus on freakin' midfield.
even in this shit Juve, one of the worst ever, he manages to get around and score plenty, be effective, had it not been for him we'd stand 10th.
Can't even imagine what he would have done if he had proper midfield behind him, and not headless trio.
He's also bringing us tons of cash. Everyone mentions his wages yet nobody takes into consideration the amount of money and popularity we reached because of him. Even in this grandpa age he's better than our "fresh young talented players". Just sell Dybala and keep upgrading the squad because he'll bring what a striker is supposed to bring: goals. Morata - Dybala - Chiesa surely isn't a trio that I'd like to see next season. We won't get much from Dybala as a winger, we've seen that, so rather sell him for some big bucks when we can. Use Ronaldo as much as we can. Just focus on freakin' midfield.
Its not about if he's great or not. He is great. And yes he has good numbers
But we cater to him too much. Our game plan is for Ronaldo to pull something and pass to him in the meanwhile without taking initiatives. When he's in a bad day, Juve is usually in a bad day. We're worse off as a team.
With the wage we give him we could have a few quality players that would balance out the squad instead of relying on one player. The latter impedes the team to take initiatives. If he left the rest of the team would share more goals
Show some pride and stop being Ronaldo FC. Even in Allegri's last season that game plan didn't workout because we're too predictable and Juve is slave to his performances. He was brought in for the CL, we failed now move on. You don't rebuild with Ronaldo
Painful to see how low can we get to cater to him.
But we cater to him too much. Our game plan is for Ronaldo to pull something and pass to him in the meanwhile without taking initiatives. When he's in a bad day, Juve is usually in a bad day. We're worse off as a team.
With the wage we give him we could have a few quality players that would balance out the squad instead of relying on one player. The latter impedes the team to take initiatives. If he left the rest of the team would share more goals
Show some pride and stop being Ronaldo FC. Even in Allegri's last season that game plan didn't workout because we're too predictable and Juve is slave to his performances. He was brought in for the CL, we failed now move on. You don't rebuild with Ronaldo
Painful to see how low can we get to cater to him.
Not one player in the world would bring Ronaldo's numbers even if they cater him. Not one.
People forget what he achived in Real and what he did there. He's surrounded by 70IQ in our squad and people put blame on him. Build better team and you'll get better results. Of course you can't have a striker and count on him to defend, create for himself in the middle, and then go and strike a goal, whether he's a poacher or not.
I don't want to even imagine this season without him.
People forget what he achived in Real and what he did there. He's surrounded by 70IQ in our squad and people put blame on him. Build better team and you'll get better results. Of course you can't have a striker and count on him to defend, create for himself in the middle, and then go and strike a goal, whether he's a poacher or not.
I don't want to even imagine this season without him.
When you have great players at other positions then having Ronaldo makes more sense. Keyword here is we're rebuilding, we can't continue to get bailed out by him else we will only patch up and not rebuild. The team needs to have new leaders and not be a one trick pony. But we do need some purchases for that to happen