Every sport is different so we should just stop comparing athletes altogether then. I specifically said how does Ronaldo fare against fellow forwards instead of how good he is defensively compared to other footballers, since it's more position divided game. So is Ronaldo a elite player in both phases compared to others playing the same position? It's one thing to have "defensive duties", it's a whole nother thing to be elite at it for a decade, while also carrying the offense of your team as well. Jordan was Ronaldo with Mandzukic esque defense and workrate, if you want an accurate translation to football
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Saying your opinion, a terrible one at that, and then add it's a fact lol
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Saying your opinion, a terrible one at that, and then add it's a fact lol
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Yet alone, we should stop comparing different generations, even if it was from the same sport but it's what sports are all about, connecting the history of the past to today's game and it's what makes it "fun" to look different players and what they have done.
It's getting even more pathetic by bringing Mandzu on this, nothing away from him but his attacking abilities are nowhere where Ronaldo's is, so he has to do something else or let's say, he needs to bring something else on the table since his numbers ain't 50 goals a season for a decade. If you guarantee 50 goals a season in 11v11 game, you get certain freedoms just because there's enough players to cover you. If you score 30 points a game in basketball, you not defending would cause enemy team doing 60 in return - that's the difference. Jordan just did what he was supposed to do, just like everyone else and maybe he was little bit better overall player than anybody else, so it automatically led to him being your so called defensive "genius".
It's getting even more pathetic by bringing Mandzu on this, nothing away from him but his attacking abilities are nowhere where Ronaldo's is, so he has to do something else or let's say, he needs to bring something else on the table since his numbers ain't 50 goals a season for a decade. If you guarantee 50 goals a season in 11v11 game, you get certain freedoms just because there's enough players to cover you. If you score 30 points a game in basketball, you not defending would cause enemy team doing 60 in return - that's the difference. Jordan just did what he was supposed to do, just like everyone else and maybe he was little bit better overall player than anybody else, so it automatically led to him being your so called defensive "genius".
There is just too much wrong with this, I don't know if I should even respond.
About Ronaldo and Mandzu, I was just giving you an example but if you insist then how about Cavani or Tevez? Before you start writing what they all lack compared to CR, I was just asking a simple question, is there room for Ronaldo year in year out on a hypothetical all Defensive team? 1st? 2nd? 3rd? 4th? 19th? In the end, he's still GOAT (or one of them, whatever) of football, but stuff like that does matter when you want to put him above athletes of other sports
About Ronaldo and Mandzu, I was just giving you an example but if you insist then how about Cavani or Tevez? Before you start writing what they all lack compared to CR, I was just asking a simple question, is there room for Ronaldo year in year out on a hypothetical all Defensive team? 1st? 2nd? 3rd? 4th? 19th? In the end, he's still GOAT (or one of them, whatever) of football, but stuff like that does matter when you want to put him above athletes of other sports
yeah Ive never said skill doesnt play major part and I find basketball players more skilled, while physically they would wipe the floor with footballers 
. Claim about dexterity is futile since basketball requires more finesse and precision. There are more facets in basketball game, strategy, movement, quicker decision making, the game is simply more intense physically and mentally, you are required to play at both ends when you are in, etc... Most who played either, will atest to that. You can prefer football as most people do, but you dont need to be deluded.
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. Claim about dexterity is futile since basketball requires more finesse and precision. There are more facets in basketball game, strategy, movement, quicker decision making, the game is simply more intense physically and mentally, you are required to play at both ends when you are in, etc... Most who played either, will atest to that. You can prefer football as most people do, but you dont need to be deluded.- - - Updated - - -
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This is laughable. Even if this outlandish claim had any truth in it, it is futile since basketball requires more finesse and precision. I have rarely seen a basketball player shooting from distance with his weaker hand while It is common in football to shoot with weaker foot as there is more room for error. There are more facets in basketball game, movement, quicker decision making, the game is simply more intense physically and mentally, you are required to play at both ends when you are in, etc... Most who played either, will atest to that. You can prefer football as most people do, but you dont need to be deluded.
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Controlling the ball and dribbling with your feet (running at a high speed) is definitely harder than doing so with your hands. Striking volleys, overhead and bicycle kicks is infinitely harder than anything basketball players can do. Yes yes you will come and say that basketball players do this and that.
But the fact remains that football has over 4 billion fans worldwide and a good portion of that trying to become pros. Basketball only has a fraction of that, and it's mostly tall blacks (75%) who make it to the top. Now tell me which sport is more competitive. Obviously the one with more competitors. The bar is raised higher for professional footballers.
Not going to argue that getting into the NBA is not harder than playing for a shitty Serie A team due to the lack of spots and teams (JuveJay made a good argument) but the amount of dedication football players require to reach the absolute top is simply above that one of basketball.
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Striking a voley is harder than double-pump dunk? Most people dont even try because they dont have physical predispositions to succeed in game of basketball. Skill alone wont get you far. While there are plenty of skilled but relatively physically weak football players plying their trade in top clubs. Our own club has a few.. ahm Pjanic
Striking a voley is harder than double-pump dunk? Most people dont even try because they dont have physical predispositions to succeed in game of basketball. Skill alone wont get you far. While there are plenty of skilled but relatively physically weak football players plying their trade in top clubs. Our own club has a few.. ahm Pjanic
