Cristiano Ronaldo (117 Viewers)

[BayernFan]

Goosebumps from watching this. He always was a special player.


To score 29 goals in a team that doesn't work that well is no easy feat and to be a topscorer in 3 different top leagues is just something you gotta admire.

 

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[IlCapitano]

It’s basically the money that comes available without him and the possible reinforcements that make us potentially stronger without Ronaldo.

But it depends who we will sign of course.

No one we could sign with that money is going to make the team better.

We are not getting Mbappe, De Bruyne etc. and no collection of Icardi's and Dybala's is going to have a bigger impact so I'd much rather keep Ronaldo thank you.

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

There is absolutely no reason or justification, sporting or financial, for getting rid of Ronaldo before the above names, unless he wants to leave.

 

[U Picciriddu]

No one we could sign with that money is going to make the team better.

We are not getting Mbappe, De Bruyne etc. and no collection of Icardi's and Dybala's is going to have a bigger impact so I'd much rather keep Ronaldo thank you.

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

There is absolutely no reason or justification, sporting or financial, for getting rid of Ronaldo before the above names, unless he wants to leave.

I disagree. You only look to the biggest and most expensive players.

And selling/releasing (or whatever) Ramsey, Dybala, Chiellini, Buffon means you also have to replace them. We aren’t paying the salaries of Costa, Rugani and De Sciglio for now, but I get your point there and agree obviously.

What im trying to say is that the 50/60m gross Ronaldo costs could potentially be used for 2 or 3 good signings, so overall your team could be better. But again it depends on who we will get for that money, if you buy another Ramsey, Bernardeschi and Costa than obviously you won’t improve.

 

[Bianconero81]

No one we could sign with that money is going to make the team better.

We are not getting Mbappe, De Bruyne etc. and no collection of Icardi's and Dybala's is going to have a bigger impact so I'd much rather keep Ronaldo thank you.

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

There is absolutely no reason or justification, sporting or financial, for getting rid of Ronaldo before the above names, unless he wants to leave.

I'm sorry, but if you're putting Dybala in that list, might as well add Rabiot, Arthur and Bonucci.

 

[DIECI]

No one we could sign with that money is going to make the team better.

We are not getting Mbappe, De Bruyne etc. and no collection of Icardi's and Dybala's is going to have a bigger impact so I'd much rather keep Ronaldo thank you.

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

There is absolutely no reason or justification, sporting or financial, for getting rid of Ronaldo before the above names, unless he wants to leave.

totally agreed. It is never a winning move getting rid of a superstar. It's always a step back, on the field and off. Ronaldo gave us 29 goals this season in serie A, you are not replacing that. The problem on this team is not Ronaldo, it's the midfield that leaves our defense unprotected and doesn't create anything for our attackers. Get a solid midfield and this team with Ronaldo, Dybala and Chiesa would be a different level next year.

 

[IlCapitano]

I disagree. You only look to the biggest and most expensive players.

And selling/releasing (or whatever) Ramsey, Dybala, Chiellini, Buffon means you also have to replace them. We aren’t paying the salaries of Costa, Rugani and De Sciglio for now, but I get your point there and agree obviously.

What im trying to say is that the 50/60m gross Ronaldo costs could potentially be used for 2 or 3 good signings, so overall your team could be better. But again it depends on who we will get for that money, if you buy another Ramsey, Bernardeschi and Costa than obviously you won’t improve.

You have to replace Ronaldo too and it is much easier to replace players who contribute next to nothing while saving the same amount of money on wages than your best and most decisive player.

 

[Pegi]

A greenpiece activist is more beliavable and convincing with all the bullshit they're spreading compared to tuz.

And maybe Ronaldo can lower his wage demands if he really wants to stay. 36 goals in all comps for $30m in his pocket. That's a pricey return per goal.

Ya but that's still 36 goals.

 

[Albertmare]

He is staying , his presence alone gives pressure to opponent , fix our midfielder and tactic , i think we will have a significance chance to win our Scudetto back

 

[Robee]

totally agreed. It is never a winning move getting rid of a superstar. It's always a step back, on the field and off. Ronaldo gave us 29 goals this season in serie A, you are not replacing that. The problem on this team is not Ronaldo, it's the midfield that leaves our defense unprotected and doesn't create anything for our attackers. Get a solid midfield and this team with Ronaldo, Dybala and Chiesa would be a different level next year.

We spent less and scored more before Ronaldo. So it's pretty clear what needs to be done here. We need to cut costs and build a better all-round team, starting with the foundation once again, not the cherry on top.
People just see it as criticising Cristiano, which is not the case. He did his part but we didn't surround him like we should've done and right now we don't have the money for it. By the time we will, he'll be a pensioner. So it's time to cut him loose if we can and start over.

 

[IlCapitano]

We spent less and scored more before Ronaldo. So it's pretty clear what needs to be done here. We need to cut costs and build a better all-round team, starting with the foundation once again, not the cherry on top.
People just see it as criticising Cristiano, which is not the case. He did his part but we didn't surround him like we should've done and right now we don't have the money for it. By the time we will, he'll be a pensioner. So it's time to cut him loose if we can and start over.

We spent better before.

It's hard to take it as anything else but blaming him when he's the first one out the door. There is absolutely no reason for him to go if much bigger problems stay. We can save the same money without his sale and build a better balanced team around him, not go back to square one and then look for a Ronaldo level player in a year or two.

 

[Nedved96]

I have to laugh at the people who excuse Ronaldo's excessive wages by arguing that "we can save more money by getting rid of half our bench".

Why do these people think that football teams have 25 man squads instead of just a first 11 and nothing more?

 

[Robee]

We spent better before.

It's hard to take it as anything else but blaming him when he's the first one out the door. There is absolutely no reason for him to go if much bigger problems stay. We can save the same money without his sale and build a better balanced team around him, not go back to square one and then look for a Ronaldo level player in a year or two.

Exactly. Better than throwing it all at one player.

We're not blaming him but his sale could be the key to building a stable foundation again.

We can not. Not even close. If you sell 4-5 players to get the save the same salary, we also have 4-5 holes to fill which is nearly impossible.

 

[zizinho]

Exactly. Better than throwing it all at one player.

We're not blaming him but his sale could be the key to building a stable foundation again.

We can not. Not even close. If you sell 4-5 players to get the save the same salary, we also have 4-5 holes to fill which is nearly impossible.

Rabiot and Ramsey 7M each, Can 5M and 16M agent fee, 31yo Bonucci 35M and 5M net, then a raise, Szczesny raise doubling his salary, Cancelo-Danilo, Spina-Pelle, Benatia let go, Mandzu let go, Arthur-Pjanic etc etc etc

 

[Robee]

Rabiot and Ramsey 7M each, Can 5M and 16M agent fee, 31yo Bonucci 35M and 5M net, then a raise, Szczesny raise doubling his salary, Cancelo-Danilo, Spina-Pelle, Benatia let go, Mandzu let go, Arthur-Pjanic etc etc etc

Yes and that's water down the drain unless you know some time travelling tips... Exactly the reason why we need to tighten to budget now...

 

[zizinho]

Yes and that's water down the drain unless you know some time travelling tips... Exactly the reason why we need to tighten to budget now...

Tightening the budget means not handing out random extensions and raises, especially to 30+ guys. Like do you need a time machine to know extending Bonucci until he's 37 on 6M net is a bad idea? Or giving Higuain/Dybala level wages to Ramsey and Rabiot?

 

[Robee]

Tightening the budget means not handing out random extensions and raises, especially to 30+ guys. Like do you need a time machine to know extending Bonucci until he's 37 on 6M net is a bad idea? Or giving Higuain/Dybala level wages to Ramsey and Rabiot?

No, we need one to undo it. You're talking about things we can not undo while we were talking about what needs to be done NOW. Everybody knows those decisions were mistakes. That doesn't change anything at the fact we need to rejuvenate now and need room to spend urgently.

 

[IlCapitano]

Exactly. Better than throwing it all at one player.

We're not blaming him but his sale could be the key to building a stable foundation again.

We can not. Not even close. If you sell 4-5 players to get the save the same salary, we also have 4-5 holes to fill which is nearly impossible.

Ofc we can. Even more than him on wages and even more than 30m max we'd get for him in transfer fee (but likely contract termination).

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

Costa useless, we do not need to replace him one bit.
Dybala was missing entire season, you have attacking replacements there already and would be replacing the creative part of him with midfield signings.
Buffon-Perin
Chiellini-Bonucci, MDL, Demiral, Dragusin, Danilo-more than enough depth in defense.
Ramsey, Rugani, Berna and MDS-do I even need to say something here?

That is it, that covers Ronaldo's wages. Dybala alone covers the 30-40m transfer fee and then any petty change you get from others is a bonus.

The only player from that list we'd miss a significant amount (and that is when he's at this best which he's been maybe half a season of the last 3) is Dybala.

We'd have a much harder time replacing Ronaldo's goals and big game impact than any of those above.

 

[Robee]

Ofc we can. Even more than him on wages and even more than 30m max we'd get for him in transfer fee (but likely contract termination).


Costa useless, we do not need to replace him one bit.
Dybala was missing entire season, you have attacking replacements there already and would be replacing the creative part of him with midfield signings.
Buffon-Perin
Chiellini-Bonucci, MDL, Demiral, Dragusin, Danilo-more than enough depth in defense.
Ramsey, Rugani, Berna and MDS-do I even need to say something here?

That is it, that covers Ronaldo's wages. Dybala alone covers the 30-40m transfer fee and then any petty change you get from others is a bonus.

The only player from that list we'd miss a significant amount (and that is when he's at this best which he's been maybe half a season of the last 3) is Dybala.

We'd have a much harder time replacing Ronaldo's goals and big game impact than any of those above.

Ramsey and Berna and Dybala are the only ones you mentioned, that we're actually paying right now. First of all it doesn't match Ronaldo's value and second of all it would create 3 holes to fill. Third, we'd replace Ronaldo's goals by creating a better team. Simple as that.

 

[BayernFan]

I actually like his point and agree with it. If you win the Golden Boot is it without any bias from voters but because you simply just scored the most goals in a top 5 league. It's probably also together with the Ballon d'Or the most prestigious individual award.

https://www.90min.com/in/posts/6477...g-the-golden-shoe-better-than-any-other-award

 

[IlCapitano]

Ramsey and Berna and Dybala are the only ones you mentioned, that we're actually paying right now. First of all it doesn't match Ronaldo's value and second of all it would create 3 holes to fill. Third, we'd replace Ronaldo's goals by creating a better team.

And who's paying Chiellini and Buffon? UNICEF?

We're not paying Costa, Rugani and MDS. You can put Rabiot or Arthur there instead of him, still the same. And yes, in gross wages they earn more than Ronaldo.

Point is you can free up finances by actually getting rid of deadwood. Selling Dybala for best offer and cutting everyone else's contract would be better than doing the same with Ronaldo.

Sure, if you can sell both Ronaldo and deadwood then yeah, I would be all for that, get a clean slate completely. But selling Ronaldo before any of these? Hell no.