Cristiano Ronaldo (242 Viewers)

[zizinho]

Yes and that's water down the drain unless you know some time travelling tips... Exactly the reason why we need to tighten to budget now...

Tightening the budget means not handing out random extensions and raises, especially to 30+ guys. Like do you need a time machine to know extending Bonucci until he's 37 on 6M net is a bad idea? Or giving Higuain/Dybala level wages to Ramsey and Rabiot?

 

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[Robee]

Tightening the budget means not handing out random extensions and raises, especially to 30+ guys. Like do you need a time machine to know extending Bonucci until he's 37 on 6M net is a bad idea? Or giving Higuain/Dybala level wages to Ramsey and Rabiot?

No, we need one to undo it. You're talking about things we can not undo while we were talking about what needs to be done NOW. Everybody knows those decisions were mistakes. That doesn't change anything at the fact we need to rejuvenate now and need room to spend urgently.

 

[IlCapitano]

Exactly. Better than throwing it all at one player.

We're not blaming him but his sale could be the key to building a stable foundation again.

We can not. Not even close. If you sell 4-5 players to get the save the same salary, we also have 4-5 holes to fill which is nearly impossible.

Ofc we can. Even more than him on wages and even more than 30m max we'd get for him in transfer fee (but likely contract termination).

Also, by getting rid of Costa, Dybala, Buffon, Chiellini, Ramsey, Rugani, MDS and Berna's wages you save more than with CR and get more in transfer fees.

Costa useless, we do not need to replace him one bit.
Dybala was missing entire season, you have attacking replacements there already and would be replacing the creative part of him with midfield signings.
Buffon-Perin
Chiellini-Bonucci, MDL, Demiral, Dragusin, Danilo-more than enough depth in defense.
Ramsey, Rugani, Berna and MDS-do I even need to say something here?

That is it, that covers Ronaldo's wages. Dybala alone covers the 30-40m transfer fee and then any petty change you get from others is a bonus.

The only player from that list we'd miss a significant amount (and that is when he's at this best which he's been maybe half a season of the last 3) is Dybala.

We'd have a much harder time replacing Ronaldo's goals and big game impact than any of those above.

 

[Robee]

Ofc we can. Even more than him on wages and even more than 30m max we'd get for him in transfer fee (but likely contract termination).


Costa useless, we do not need to replace him one bit.
Dybala was missing entire season, you have attacking replacements there already and would be replacing the creative part of him with midfield signings.
Buffon-Perin
Chiellini-Bonucci, MDL, Demiral, Dragusin, Danilo-more than enough depth in defense.
Ramsey, Rugani, Berna and MDS-do I even need to say something here?

That is it, that covers Ronaldo's wages. Dybala alone covers the 30-40m transfer fee and then any petty change you get from others is a bonus.

The only player from that list we'd miss a significant amount (and that is when he's at this best which he's been maybe half a season of the last 3) is Dybala.

We'd have a much harder time replacing Ronaldo's goals and big game impact than any of those above.

Ramsey and Berna and Dybala are the only ones you mentioned, that we're actually paying right now. First of all it doesn't match Ronaldo's value and second of all it would create 3 holes to fill. Third, we'd replace Ronaldo's goals by creating a better team. Simple as that.

 

[BayernFan]

I actually like his point and agree with it. If you win the Golden Boot is it without any bias from voters but because you simply just scored the most goals in a top 5 league. It's probably also together with the Ballon d'Or the most prestigious individual award.

https://www.90min.com/in/posts/6477...g-the-golden-shoe-better-than-any-other-award

 

[IlCapitano]

Ramsey and Berna and Dybala are the only ones you mentioned, that we're actually paying right now. First of all it doesn't match Ronaldo's value and second of all it would create 3 holes to fill. Third, we'd replace Ronaldo's goals by creating a better team.

And who's paying Chiellini and Buffon? UNICEF?

We're not paying Costa, Rugani and MDS. You can put Rabiot or Arthur there instead of him, still the same. And yes, in gross wages they earn more than Ronaldo.

Point is you can free up finances by actually getting rid of deadwood. Selling Dybala for best offer and cutting everyone else's contract would be better than doing the same with Ronaldo.

Sure, if you can sell both Ronaldo and deadwood then yeah, I would be all for that, get a clean slate completely. But selling Ronaldo before any of these? Hell no.

 

[zizinho]

I actually like his point and agree with it. If you win the Golden Boot is it without any bias from voters but because you simply just scored the most goals in a top 5 league. It's probably also together with the Ballon d'Or the most prestigious individual award.

https://www.90min.com/in/posts/6477...g-the-golden-shoe-better-than-any-other-award

It should be without the top 5 leagues advantages, then it would be a proper award

 

[Robee]

And who's paying Chiellini and Buffon? UNICEF?

We're not paying Costa, Rugani and MDS. You can put Rabiot or Arthur there instead of him, still the same. And yes, in gross wages they earn more than Ronaldo.

Point is you can free up finances by actually getting rid of deadwood. Selling Dybala for best offer and cutting everyone else's contract would be better than doing the same with Ronaldo.

Sure, if you can sell both Ronaldo and deadwood then yeah, I would be all for that, get a clean slate completely. But selling Ronaldo before any of these? Hell no.

Must've those but Chiellini and Buffon are useless mentions. They're quite cheap, have 0 resale value and their replacements will probably cost us more...

Yes, you can free up finances by getting rid of everyone but you CAN NOT improve on them for that kind of money short term. It's not even hard to see, pal. Selling Rabiot, Berna, Ramsey and Chiellini will bring us about 40 mil. That's one fucking transfer sum, Berna's salary for the new guy and 3 more holes to fill. Ronnie's salary is higher than those 4 combined...

Of course we're talking about selling deadwood and Ronaldo and not Ronnie without the other.... Sporting wise Ronnie is not a problem at all for me.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Goosebumps from watching this. He always was a special player.


To score 29 goals in a team that doesn't work that well is no easy feat and to be a topscorer in 3 different top leagues is just something you gotta admire.

Totally agreed. I'm so glad we signed him and I was so sad to see him be surrounded by so much mediocrity, yet he fought so hard and brought us so many wins on his own. I hope we get to keep him even for the next season, his winning mentality is amazing.

 

[IlCapitano]

Must've those but Chiellini and Buffon are useless mentions. They're quite cheap, have 0 resale value and their replacements will probably cost us more...

Yes, you can free up finances by getting rid of everyone but you CAN NOT improve on them for that kind of money short term. It's not even hard to see, pal. Selling Rabiot, Berna, Ramsey and Chiellini will bring us about 40 mil. That's one fucking transfer sum, Berna's salary for the new guy and 3 more holes to fill. Ronnie's salary is higher than those 4 combined...

Of course we're talking about selling deadwood and Ronaldo and not Ronnie without the other.... Sporting wise Ronnie is not a problem at all for me.

But what holes are you talking about? Who and where is missing Ramsey, Berna, Buffon, Chiellini etc.? We have Perin already. We have Dragusin, give the kid a chance. Give Demiral more minutes. Ramsey and Berna are barely playing as it is. When and where are we missing any of them and which one of them is demanding an expensive replacement?

 

[Robee]

But what holes are you talking about? Who and where is missing Ramsey, Berna, Buffon, Chiellini etc.? We have Perin already. We have Dragusin, give the kid a chance. Give Demiral more minutes. Ramsey and Berna are barely playing as it is. When and where are we missing any of them and which one of them is demanding an expensive replacement?

That's an interesting proposal! One to consider but I don't know Dragusin, Fagioli and co. enough to actually judge them as first team guys.

But let's say we use those guys. They will obviously be backups and we'd still need to spend a shitload of money at leftback and midfield to actually improve the team.
The whole point in replacing our expensive deadweight is improving while maybe cutting costs or worst case keep a status quo.

I'd say it's time to sell those 200 players on loan as well.

 

[Espectro]

He post this today on instagram

 

[BayernFan]

It should be without the top 5 leagues advantages, then it would be a proper award

I think it's fair enough the top 5 leagues got the advantage, after all is the overall quality in these leagues much higher than the rest. Even if the Dutch, Portugeese, Belgian leagues etc are decent are they nowhere the other 5, especially England, Spain, Italy and Germany.

 

[delpiero1986]

He post this today on instagram

he wants to say that he achieved everything in Italy and that he is leaving now.

 

[Strickland]

So I guess it's farewell CR7. Good luck

 

[LiquidPLP]

Yeah, looks like it.

Feedback coming to me from the people close to Ronaldo. It's a first step towards a probable farewell. [Momblano - TopCalcio - Via @NonSoloJuve]

Juventus are demanding 30mln€ for the sale of Ronaldo. [Momblano - Top Calcio 24 - @AroundJuventus]

 

[Cerval]

bye

 

[DeviAngel]

Thank you, it was a privilege. Best step for us and him. All the best CR7

 

[DanielSz]

Thanks bye

 

[AriG]

30 milions? What the hell?
60 or gtfo