Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (62 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

To be fair to them, 20% of deaths in the entire world have happened in the US. Nearly 200k. No one in the first world has experienced anything like this in a couple generations.

I get that but I think that fear and mental breakdown will leave huge consequences, possibly even worse than corona itself.

And it's still hard to know what are the real numbers, despite numbers being big, since we have countries like Belgium who spread numbers all over the place yet people weren't even tested but are classified as a corona death.

 

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[X Æ A-12]

I think that goes generally for all nations. But I think it's the fragile mentality because majority of countries went through tough shit while folks in the US are soft teddy bears.

My friend works as a teacher over there and I hope she goes out normal after all this. She literally looks nuts at this point. I mean, their teachers are writing wills lol.

Such overload of their mind is gonna have a much worse impact than getting infected by corona.



I think it's more healthy to sit infront of a PC (internet) than TV.

Disagree completey. In fact I don't think folks in the US are soft at all but I do see how someone who never lived here might get that impression through media. Maybe not in comparison to an impoverished nation, but certainly in comparison to other wealthy first world nations.

Important to remember that (even when subject matter might change) much of media here is created through (and often intended for) a privileged upper middle class lense and is a very poor reflection of reality

 

[Post Ironic]

I get that but I think that fear and mental breakdown will leave huge consequences, possibly even worse than corona itself.

And it's still hard to know what are the real numbers, despite numbers being big, since we have countries like Belgium who spread numbers all over the place yet people weren't even tested but are classified as a corona death.

I mean, when looking at excess deaths based on yearly averages, if anything due to not counting probable deaths early on, US death toll is likely higher than current numbers. Definitely not lower. It may not be much higher, but we’re looking at minimum 250,000 dead from this virus in America alone. That’s not insignificant.

We’re already seeing effects of the lockdowns and the stress and anxiety, in suicide rates and drug overdoses skyrocketing. In my province, BC, those things have killed more than Covid because we snuffed out the virus so quickly. We’ll see if we have a second wave and that becomes a moot point... but in hard hit places those side effects are drop of water in a bucket compared to the COVID death tolls and effects, so the only choice was to lockdown to stop overwhelming health care systems and tanking the economy due to insane death tolls and broken health care.

 

[piotrr]

If tuz was a tv show, what would it be?

let's think, a bunch of weirdos and virgins spending time together without females and having some laughs from inside jokes...

The Big Bang Theory

 

[Post Ironic]

How I Met Your Mother

I was thinking something like The Young and the Restless or Days of Our Lives.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Disagree completey. In fact I don't think folks in the US are soft at all but I do see how someone who never lived here might get that impression through media. Maybe not in comparison to an impoverished nation, but certainly in comparison to other wealthy first world nations.

Important to remember that (even when subject matter might change) much of media here is created through (and often intended for) a privileged upper middle class lense and is a very poor reflection of reality

Soft because you haven't gone through shit like majority of other countries. It's not a bad thing. It's more like a blessing you didn't get to live shit periods of your life. I'd say the same for more countries even in the EU, not just US. I can't say I'm proud to have lived shitty period of hyperinflation as the second biggest ever, or bombardment or wars. It's horrible. But that horrible thing makes corona less painful imo. Still, it's important to draw a line and don't let stupidity and ignorance kick in as "I survived war, corona won't kill me!", that's just bs.

 

[DAiDEViL]

let's think, a bunch of weirdos and virgins spending time together without females and having some laughs from inside jokes...

The Big Bang Theory

Pavle gets to be Sheldon and king Ale is the blonde.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I mean, when looking at excess deaths based on yearly averages, if anything due to not counting probable deaths early on, US death toll is likely higher than current numbers. Definitely not lower. It may not be much higher, but we’re looking at minimum 250,000 dead from this virus in America alone. That’s not insignificant.

We’re already seeing effects of the lockdowns and the stress and anxiety, in suicide rates and drug overdoses skyrocketing. In my province, BC, those things have killed more than Covid because we snuffed out the virus so quickly. We’ll see if we have a second wave and that becomes a moot point... but in hard hit places those side effects are drop of water in a bucket compared to the COVID death tolls and effects, so the only choice was to lockdown to stop overwhelming health care systems and tanking the economy due to insane death tolls and broken health care.

Really? I never saw that info although it was suspected. But it's horrible. Went I went to the village there was a guy who hung himself because of corona. He had a family and wasn't even diagnosed, but he was scared shitless.

 

[X Æ A-12]

let's think, a bunch of weirdos and virgins spending time together without females and having some laughs from inside jokes...

The Big Bang Theory

Tuz is more like Band of Brothers. We been through the shit together, spent years in the trenchs, and in the end Euros kneel to the superior Americans

 

[Post Ironic]

Really? I never saw that info although it was suspected. But it's horrible. Went I went to the village there was a guy who hung himself because of corona. He had a family and wasn't even diagnosed, but he was scared shitless.

There was a study done at some point that showed a 1% increase in unemployment = approximately a 1% rise in suicides Historically. So they hypothesized that if high unemployment due to Covid lockdowns continued too long that suicide rates would jump substantially.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I do notice that plenty and the biggest proportion of scared people come from the US. And when I say scared I mean scared shitless.

We have people here that still don't think it's even real, as a nation we achieve a balance in this way

You referred to your teacher friend, they have it really rough with this. As a nation we have a lot going on right now though, anxiety is high in general.

 

[Bjerknes]

Damnit man. If you a scared pussy just stay home, let the rest of us live!

I'm definitely not staying home but I'm also a masktard for sure.

I can't stand the people throwing fits about wearing masks when they enter a business. Very hypocritical, especially when the same folks are probably advocating not selling cupcakes to the gays. Just such idiocy everywhere.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm definitely not staying home but I'm also a masktard for sure.

I can't stand the people throwing fits about wearing masks when they enter a business. Very hypocritical, especially when the same folks are probably advocating not selling cupcakes to the gays. Just such idiocy everywhere.

I didnt mean you btw

Yeah I have no problem with the masks if they help and mean the stay at home measures won't have to be so extreme

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Masks are useless

 

[X Æ A-12]

Masks are useless

useless or not perfect?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Masks are useless

 

[GordoDeCentral]

useless or not perfect?

How can you justify being a scientist if you tell people, there's nothing to do except wait it out. I know, make up arbitrary shit that gives you a false sense of security and moral superiority.

 

[Post Ironic]

There is ample evidence that masks are effective. Not perfect, but certainly effective. QAnon conspiracy theorists may say otherwise though lol

https://www.wsj.com/articles/face-m...he-scientific-evidence-is-growing-11595083298

 

[Fab Fragment]

If masks are ineffective, then why have doctors / surgeons been wearing masks for a whole century. The rest of the world seems to be wearing them and COVID-19 has significantly decreased in most countries. However, cloth masks are not nearly as effective unless you insert proper filters in them.

Of course, masks are not perfect. But then, are seatbelts, helmets or condoms perfect?

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

 

[Dostoevsky]

If masks are ineffective, then why have doctors / surgeons been wearing masks for a whole century. The rest of the world seems to be wearing them and COVID-19 has significantly decreased in most countries. However, cloth masks are not nearly as effective unless you insert proper filters in them.

Of course, masks are not perfect. But then, are seatbelts, helmets or condoms perfect?

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/4...s-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

Because surgeons wearing masks and community wearing masks outside are two different thing that can't even be compared. Doctors work in sterile surgical suites equipped with heavy duty air exchange systems and they filter the room air. They can't even distance from others. Their masks also prevent bacteria and parts of the skill falling into an open tissue/wound. But if a surgeon was sick then they wouldn't perform the surgery at all, they aren't relying on mask to prevent it and go like "let's do it, it's just a couple of hours of surgery". Plus they never use mask that's made of cloth which majority of people use, and they never use the same mask multiple times which is what people do. They throw masks away the very second they start to get wet inside. The way community uses masks is imo more harmful as majority touches the face constantly, re-uses the same old mask many times, have it wrapped up around the hand and walk around, etc.