Some conspiracy theories turn out to be true. People do actually conspire you know.
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There are 3 ways to combat the corona virus:
1. The Chinese way - military assisted quarantine; costing tons of money
2. The Swedish way - essentially doing nothing
3. The Bulgarian way - first nationwide call for chinese style prevention (-) then swedish-type realization and(=) pocketing the money.
I am not completely certain, but I think the translator[in the corona prevention HQ briefing] for the hearing-impaired audience was just repeatedly doing the sign of the cross.
1. The Chinese way - military assisted quarantine; costing tons of money
2. The Swedish way - essentially doing nothing
3. The Bulgarian way - first nationwide call for chinese style prevention (-) then swedish-type realization and(=) pocketing the money.
I am not completely certain, but I think the translator[in the corona prevention HQ briefing] for the hearing-impaired audience was just repeatedly doing the sign of the cross.
Everything seems so weird. Nothing can be compared with others. We have similar population. At the moment we are doing more tests than Bulgarians (we used to do less) yet we have 7x more cases and almost 3x deaths. We had around 350k came into the country once this began so that might be the reason, tons were from Italy and probably carrying the virus. Our restrictions are pretty damn high, though.
Many laws in our country, few willing to follow them. As a man once said everything you need to know about life is in this book, too bad you can't read.
Bulgaria has neither the capacity to 'deal' with a man-made disease, nor the inclination. This virus can be a brutal wake-up call for the world. Westerners are amazing in their ability to suspend reality and believe whatever suits them. Take the USA for instance - if 1/3 of the population has NO health care at all how do you expect to get out of a pandemic? No local manufacturing, most talents are bankers not doctors... Or even worse they are doctors who work in labs to test new viruses.
Bulgaria has neither the capacity to 'deal' with a man-made disease, nor the inclination. This virus can be a brutal wake-up call for the world. Westerners are amazing in their ability to suspend reality and believe whatever suits them. Take the USA for instance - if 1/3 of the population has NO health care at all how do you expect to get out of a pandemic? No local manufacturing, most talents are bankers not doctors... Or even worse they are doctors who work in labs to test new viruses.
The tests aren't accurate. Pharmaceutical companies have extreme difficulties finding the right protocol. There are a lot of numbers floating around, but honestly there are only a couple of things we know:
- the virus is highly contagious
- it will be around for a long time
- usually a 'fast' vaccine means at least five years
- mortality is low
- countries that imposed face masks on their population seem to do better
Do with those facts what you want.
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- the virus is highly contagious
- it will be around for a long time
- usually a 'fast' vaccine means at least five years
- mortality is low
- countries that imposed face masks on their population seem to do better
Do with those facts what you want.
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lol reminds me of this meme
But talk about people wanting to politicize the virus. You have the "it's racist against blacks" argument, thought blacks dying more of disease is pretty much true for every health issue. Then you get the talk about how the virus will disproportionally affect women, set back their careers as caregivers, exploit the poor women around the world, etc.
But yet nobody is really saying a thing about the mortality rate of the virus being about 2x for men than it is for women. That is acceptable.
I get your social grievances, but now isn't the time.
He's no doctor but he plays one on TV.
This is what America considers are "experts".
The 21st Amendment too, btw.
Americans are kind of scientifically and mathematically challenged more than most in the world it seems. Sure, there's this independent streak of "fook everybody else as long as I get mine" mentality in the US, which permeates these attitudes. This is why health care seems like private privilege rather than a necessary public good there. I saw a video of someone woman near San Diego wanting to start a protest because you could tell, just like any anti-vaxxer, she felt her feeble scientific and mathematical mind knew better than anything an epidemiologist or even an economist could tell her.
I think this also has to do with the expectation of most Americans that being inconvenienced is an affront to their personal liberties. Like they are entitled for nothing wrong to ever happen to them and to never have to sacrifice anything.
Situations like this kind of line up that mentality for the slaughter. That whole idiotic, selfish attitude of, "Well, it's been a month and I'm tired of this and want to hang out and have beers with my friend and I'm not over 80 or immunocompromised, so I should just do what I want and the world will just act like my choices don't make a difference." Even still, people don't understand non-linear effects, how human behaviors contribute to shared issues, the deceptiveness of growth curves, probabilities and risk, etc.
Really, America is worthless when it comes to something like addressing climate change. They can't even understand how staying indoors ultimately improves the prospects for their own health and the health of their economy. The concept of shared burden for shared benefit just doesn't compute. There's a presumption that they are above and systemically independent from every person in the country and the rest of the world, and so none of their actions affect anyone but themselves.
And that's the other thing I don't get. Just because Amerika sez, "We're open for business", it's like these people expect we'll all go back to December 2019 and act like this never happened? That people won't distrust getting near others, sitting in bars next to others, etc.? The smart ones -- the ones with better shots of survival -- will be leery. The rest are lining up in front for nature's lawnmower.
It's part of the problem, but I think it's bigger than that. If Obama was president and he actually had a coherent operation in place (regardless if you agree with his politics), there would still be these nut jobs in the US. This is a distinctly common US thing... nothing ever bad should happen to us, and we should never be asked to sacrifice.
I go back to Robert Block, the famous writer and author of Psycho, on this one when he once famously said, "The man who can smile when things go wrong has thought of someone else he can blame it on."
That's pretty much Trump right now.
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The fuk is wrong with China 
Hi Greg!!! how are you doing bro?? I hope you and your family are doing well and safe!!
)) I'm doing fine so far which is great 
well we didn't move here on a permanent basis we decided to spend winter here and we ended up coming to Egypt back in November, visited Saudi Arabia to meet up with my mum and little bro and luckily left Saudi Arabia before they imposed the lockdown only to get locked in back in Egypt which isn't as bad as it sounds really we got ourselves to the south of Sinai in a small town on the Gulf of Aqaba which is filled with ex-pats down-shifting and whatever comes with that package ( vegans, yoga lovers, bohemians, and hippies). so we are fine can't really complain as stressing as it is with regards to wanting to go back to normal life. the good thing is my young one is free to get out of the house in the sun for a couple of hours every day as opposed to being stuck in a house in Cairo which would surely drive me and the wife insane surprisingly the government here are handling this well, they have gone beyond my expectations which is shocking funny enough its the people who are insisting on not following the guidelines......
of course, back in Russia things seem to be escalating and once again the figures are surely inaccurate, the stories we hear about life in Moscow now is reminiscent of George Orwell's 1984 so some people are worried (rightly so considering the lovely people in charge are not to be trusted) they won't loosen up these new rules even when the world defeats this virus which is worrying.
)) I'm doing fine so far which is great well we didn't move here on a permanent basis we decided to spend winter here and we ended up coming to Egypt back in November, visited Saudi Arabia to meet up with my mum and little bro and luckily left Saudi Arabia before they imposed the lockdown only to get locked in back in Egypt which isn't as bad as it sounds really we got ourselves to the south of Sinai in a small town on the Gulf of Aqaba which is filled with ex-pats down-shifting and whatever comes with that package ( vegans, yoga lovers, bohemians, and hippies). so we are fine can't really complain as stressing as it is with regards to wanting to go back to normal life. the good thing is my young one is free to get out of the house in the sun for a couple of hours every day as opposed to being stuck in a house in Cairo which would surely drive me and the wife insane surprisingly the government here are handling this well, they have gone beyond my expectations which is shocking funny enough its the people who are insisting on not following the guidelines......of course, back in Russia things seem to be escalating and once again the figures are surely inaccurate, the stories we hear about life in Moscow now is reminiscent of George Orwell's 1984 so some people are worried (rightly so considering the lovely people in charge are not to be trusted) they won't loosen up these new rules even when the world defeats this virus which is worrying.
I didn't know that about the south of Sinai. Damn, you get them Bali hippies everywhere. Sounds like a good hangout spot though... glad you guys are safe and out of the immediate sphere of Russian influence.
You do realize that the U.S. feds are running a cheap imitation Russian disinformation campaign now. The trouble with telling the truth is that you can only tell it one way and it can only propagate and convince so far. The great thing about lies is that you can experiment and float out multiple variants to see what works and what goes "viral". What we're witnessing is a deflection disinformation campaign that is experimenting to see what will become credible to outsiders to relieve perceived responsibility from the feds in power. And you are part of that experiment.
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Caught in a superpower struggle: the inside story of the WHO's response to coronavirus
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Many people in Bulgaria are really tired of the restrictions becuse our hospitals are half empty and there has never been a real spike in cases. Slightly more than 200 people in hospitals due to Covid-19 is really nothing ( I think just two hospitals in a nearby regional city can take all Bulgarian corona cases and still have rooms left).
Now here comes Easter so after it we could expect some increase in hospitalisations but I doubt it will be anything significant.
We are also obliged to use masks when going outside.
I have been following the rules for more than a month and it is really frustrating to not know when they will be relaxed. The Emergency law should be over on 14th of May but to me waiting so long seems excessive. This is one of the longest Emergency laws I know that have been implemented around the world. And this for 15-40 cases daily. Even after the emergency situation is over not much will happen as I do not see social distancing and wearing masks being abandoned as measures anytime soon.
Even if we are able to eradicate corona in my country it will come back from outside.
I think the three things that we can do from now on is to wear mask, follow social distancing rules and implement mass testing.
Only a vaccine and a cure will bring the normality back.
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Now here comes Easter so after it we could expect some increase in hospitalisations but I doubt it will be anything significant.
We are also obliged to use masks when going outside.
I have been following the rules for more than a month and it is really frustrating to not know when they will be relaxed. The Emergency law should be over on 14th of May but to me waiting so long seems excessive. This is one of the longest Emergency laws I know that have been implemented around the world. And this for 15-40 cases daily. Even after the emergency situation is over not much will happen as I do not see social distancing and wearing masks being abandoned as measures anytime soon.
Even if we are able to eradicate corona in my country it will come back from outside.
I think the three things that we can do from now on is to wear mask, follow social distancing rules and implement mass testing.
Only a vaccine and a cure will bring the normality back.
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It is very hard to convince the population that corona is a really serious threat with 15-40 cases daily for more than a month. The weather is also fine as fuck and due to social distancing the flu season has been almost non existent.
The hospitals are emptier than before the corona.
I try to reason with friends and relatives to stay cautious but many of them do not care anymore. I expect more than 20 people to come visit us tomorrow and I can't tell them to go back.
I am really not worried at all about myself but for my parents and I am worried I could become a carrier and infect someone else.
You may not believe me but I have never got the flu in my life, have no health issues and I am in a very good shape. I should be fine.
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The hospitals are emptier than before the corona.
I try to reason with friends and relatives to stay cautious but many of them do not care anymore. I expect more than 20 people to come visit us tomorrow and I can't tell them to go back.
I am really not worried at all about myself but for my parents and I am worried I could become a carrier and infect someone else.
You may not believe me but I have never got the flu in my life, have no health issues and I am in a very good shape. I should be fine.
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if any of it is true, it's a legit reason to break any relationship with china, be it commerce, diplomacy, tourism, whatever. i'd fucking nuke them too for good measure, but that might be an overreaction. 
Their numbers are updated throughout the day, unlike Italy where the numbers are updated once a day. Spain had 5900 new cases yesterday, by the end of today they'll atleast have 3k to 4k cases.
Their daily average in April is about 5.5 k cases daily, while in Italy the number is about 4.5k.
Source for data:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/
Their daily average in April is about 5.5 k cases daily, while in Italy the number is about 4.5k.
Source for data:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/