Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (87 Viewers)

acmilan

Plusvalenza Akbar
Nov 8, 2005
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they said they want 60% of the population to get infected in order to achieve herd immunity .
There are 2 problems with this.
1) Even if you develop immunity to the virus, half a million to a million people will die and hospitals will be overrun.
2) There is no evidence that you develop immunity to the virus by catching it. There have been multiple reports of people getting reinfected with the virus.
This is basically the UK government putting money over their people’s lives. In the end, both will be destroyed. Boris Johnson should face trial for war crimes.
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As I said, they have Trump 2.0 Pro

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Trump's speech in a nutshell:

 

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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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they said they want 60% of the population to get infected in order to achieve herd immunity .
There are 2 problems with this.
1) Even if you develop immunity to the virus, half a million to a million people will die and hospitals will be overrun.
2) There is no evidence that you develop immunity to the virus by catching it. There have been multiple reports of people getting reinfected with the virus.
This is basically the UK government putting money over their people’s lives. In the end, both will be destroyed. Boris Johnson should face trial for war crimes.
There are 4 Coronaviruses that have passed into humans and become seasonal things. You don’t get long term immunity after getting any of them, so it’s hard to believe it would happen with this one either, outside maybe a brief window immediately after recovery.

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:tup:

As I said, they have Trump 2.0 Pro

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Trump's speech in a nutshell:

Trump is just such a fuckwit. And while his support base is a bunch of ignoramuses, so many that should have known better just went along for the ride and turned a blind eye to one outrage after another.
 
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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How would a vaccine work then?
I’m not sure. That’s what I’ve read in a couple places about other coronaviruses. No vaccine have probably been developed for them because they are very mild.


I guess the idea there is that covid-19 could have new strains each year, slightly different, like seasonal flu, that would need a new vaccine yearly. Get a particular strain and you have immunity from it, but not from the next strain passing around.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
15,412
It’s a royal mess. Interesting that the “socialist” healthcare systems have been so much more effective and aggressive in diagnosing and trying to control this virus.
On the other hand you’ll find that capitalist systems have been way more effective and aggressive in diagnosing and trying to control their stock markets.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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they said they want 60% of the population to get infected in order to achieve herd immunity .
There are 2 problems with this.
1) Even if you develop immunity to the virus, half a million to a million people will die and hospitals will be overrun.
2) There is no evidence that you develop immunity to the virus by catching it. There have been multiple reports of people getting reinfected with the virus.
This is basically the UK government putting money over their people’s lives. In the end, both will be destroyed. Boris Johnson should face trial for war crimes.
You sure? I heard many times that when you get a virus you won't get it again (not related for corona only but generally).

Oh and I heard there was a baby born with corona in the UK? I thought babies couldn't catch one. Also, I had no idea that pregnant women have weaker immune system.
 

kao_ray

Senior Member
Feb 28, 2014
6,567
It's a one case study, so it can't give any real conclusion if deep breathing is good against the virus. It looks promising.

Here are some other good news for deep breathing exercises

Preventive, Mitigating and Treatment Strategies for
Containing or Ending The COVID-19 Pandemic


Jianqing Wu1, Ph.D., J.D. and Ping Zha2, M.D. (Chi. Med.
(Preprint for comments, a first update, NOT published)


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The damage model also explains the special benefits of doing consistent
deep breathing exercise. The increased expansion and contraction of thoracic
cage and the diaphragmatic movements can increase the force to squeeze
interstitial fluid from the arterial side to the venous side and force slow-moving
blood out of the lungs by squeezing distensible blood vessels; breath-induced
mechanical vibrations facilitate the passing of white blood cells through lung
tissues; active motion of the exercise can raise lung local temperature with triple
benefits including reducing blood fluidity;

alveolar ventilation and thus brings out more of the leaked water from alveolar
spaces; and finally, the exercise can improve the function of the CNS or the brain
region that regulates lung functions. The exercise can be used to offset some of
the adverse effects in the entire disease course

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