Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (328 Viewers)

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I have a feeling they are just as same others. This more feels like a war between EU and England/Brexit.
That's a lost war for the brits anyway.

If it's not guaranteed to be 100% safe - I'll gladly wait til they looked into it or have some other vaccine in stock. It's not as if the black plague is raging through the streets.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
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May 27, 2007
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That's a lost war for the brits anyway.

If it's not guaranteed to be 100% safe - I'll gladly wait til they looked into it or have some other vaccine in stock. It's not as if the black plague is raging through the streets.
People act like it is plague.

We'll see if there are some many cases in Britain. I susspect there won't be issues. They maybe even avoid selling it to the eu at this point.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
65,466
People act like it is plague.

We'll see if there are some many cases in Britain. I susspect there won't be issues. They maybe even avoid selling it to the eu at this point.
That may very well be true, but for me personally, the threat from Corona isn't big enough to make me take a vaccine that might be flawed.

Of course it sucks for the elderly and the risk groups that it's gonna slow down the process though.
 

lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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I have a feeling they are just as same others. This more feels like a war between EU and England/Brexit.
On the contrary, our politicians and media have shilled AZ 24/7 even threatening that we'd have no right of rejecting it

And it was a medical institution who pulled the handbrake.

If they didn't our dear leaders would have made us eat it up.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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"...After the vaccination with Astrazeneca has stopped, the Paul Ehrlich Institute announced further details. It sees

A noticeable accumulation of a special form of very rare cerebral vein thrombosis in connection with a lack of blood platelets and bleeding close to vaccinations"
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,978
On the contrary, our politicians and media have shilled AZ 24/7 even threatening that we'd have no right of rejecting it

And it was a medical institution who pulled the handbrake.

If they didn't our dear leaders would have made us eat it up.
Government swines pushing it into the population to prove they're not incompetent.

Is that the only vaccine available in Germany?
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
32,067
"...After the vaccination with Astrazeneca has stopped, the Paul Ehrlich Institute announced further details. It sees

A noticeable accumulation of a special form of very rare cerebral vein thrombosis in connection with a lack of blood platelets and bleeding close to vaccinations"
Does this mean it can be problematic only for people with hemophilia? Or am I misunderstanding?
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
17,298
Got my vaccination Weds 7am. Surprised it's this early as I'm 38 (tomorrow) and have no health issues.
My missus got one this weekend, and just like you, she has no health issues. She even rang up her surgery to find out why she got nominated, they had no idea. We were a little apprehensive, especially considering how likely it would have been the AstreZeneca one, as Pfizer is given to the older folks and with health issues such as those taking anticoagulants. In the end, she went for it and you're right it seems the numbers of patients with blood clots are far low to be concerned about.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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"...After the vaccination with Astrazeneca has stopped, the Paul Ehrlich Institute announced further details. It sees

A noticeable accumulation of a special form of very rare cerebral vein thrombosis in connection with a lack of blood platelets and bleeding close to vaccinations"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56360646

37 cases of blood clots recorded out of 17 million vaccinations. That's 0.000002%. I can partly understand taking precautionary measures but I'd be surprised if they ever tie in those kind of statistics as anything other than probability across such a large number of people. VTE causes over 500,000 deaths across the EU each year. How are they going to decide which ones are caused by vaccinations? The idea of cause and effect surely can't be lost on people. DVT, CVT or pulmonary embolisms can randomly kill people within anything from hours to months down the line.

Pausing use of the vaccine will certainly cost more lives than what come from any side effects or speculated side effects. That lack of access and reduced confidence will stop people taking it. You said it yourself in this thread, based on a minute and precautionary statistical move.

BTW what the hell are the Czechs doing right now, sprinkling coronavirus on their breakfast cereal?
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
65,466
Pausing use of the vaccine will certainly cost more lives than what come from any side effects or speculated side effects. That lack of access and reduced confidence will stop people taking it. You said it yourself in this thread, based on a minute and precautionary statistical move.

BTW what the hell are the Czechs doing right now, sprinkling coronavirus on their breakfast cereal?
That also works the other way around though.

The Paul Ehrlich institute are experts, they advised to stop the vaccination with AstraZeneca for now - how would it look for the average Joe If we keep using it against the advice from experts? Let just one person die from it or develop severe complications and no one is gonna take it anymore.

The AstraZeneca vaccine has a bad reputation already anyway with people not eager on getting it, If we kept using it just like that, brushing aside possible side effects, that'd be the final nail in the coffin for their vaccine.
 

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