Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (53 Viewers)

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not at all. you can get infected after vaccination, you just won't develop symptoms. my point was the last sentence: as far as i know, it is still not well documented whether the vaccine protects against symptoms caused by english or south african variant. i read the other day that the astrazeneca stuff has limited protection for the latter.

Yeah, the ZA variant is clearly a chink in its armor, and there's enough developing variants out there that should diminish the efficacy for symptoms. As for transmission, it's rather dubious to begin with and not necessarily improving. They're already retooling some of the vaccines for variants.

 

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@DAiDEViL

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[Quetzalcoatl]

https://unherd.com/2021/02/the-whos-covid-shame/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3

 

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https://unherd.com/2021/02/the-whos-covid-shame/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3

I like Unherd. But this buys more into the make-believe fairytale that a modern economy with millions of tourists and business travelers floating in and out of customs daily could somehow prevent a virus from escaping national borders.

 

[X Æ A-12]

I like Unherd. But this buys more into the make-believe fairytale that a modern economy with millions of tourists and business travelers floating in and out of customs daily could somehow prevent a virus from escaping national borders.

They could have been honest and implemented measures to slow the spread no? Allowed other countries to prepare for it, to do reasearch on it before it had blown up?

 

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They could have been honest and implemented measures to slow the spread no? Allowed other countries to prepare for it, to do reasearch on it before it had blown up?

Yes, they certainly could have done things sooner, not silenced their doctors as whistleblowers, and more readily shared earlier warnings of how bad things were. But let's be real. If the US were in China's position, there would be cries of authoritarian lockdowns limiting rights to human movement and travel, etc. And as we have had ample proof, the US attempted to silence doctors as whisteblowers for months afterwards. And there is zero chance the US could have kept it in their borders.

So it's a bit disingenuous to see Western nations point fingers as if a) they would have any shot at preventing it from getting out (especially when, compared with China, they are nowhere close to controlling it a year later even with vaccines available), and b) they would clamp down on their citizens and isolate them immediately to prevent spillover to neighboring countries.

This has basically become an international game of "who farted?"

 

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This has basically become an international game of "who farted?"

Probably the guy who eats fried rice and pangolin?

 

[Enron]

Yes, they certainly could have done things sooner, not silenced their doctors as whistleblowers, and more readily shared earlier warnings of how bad things were. But let's be real. If the US were in China's position, there would be cries of authoritarian lockdowns limiting rights to human movement and travel, etc. And as we have had ample proof, the US attempted to silence doctors as whisteblowers for months afterwards. And there is zero chance the US could have kept it in their borders.

So it's a bit disingenuous to see Western nations point fingers as if a) they would have any shot at preventing it from getting out (especially when, compared with China, they are nowhere close to controlling it a year later even with vaccines available), and b) they would clamp down on their citizens and isolate them immediately to prevent spillover to neighboring countries.

This has basically become an international game of "who farted?"

very true, we just made it mandatory to be tested and quarantine to enter the country

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I like Unherd. But this buys more into the make-believe fairytale that a modern economy with millions of tourists and business travelers floating in and out of customs daily could somehow prevent a virus from escaping national borders.

The article isn't about letting China virus escape but about the supposed sham of an investigation by WHO.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Yes, they certainly could have done things sooner, not silenced their doctors as whistleblowers, and more readily shared earlier warnings of how bad things were. But let's be real. If the US were in China's position, there would be cries of authoritarian lockdowns limiting rights to human movement and travel, etc. And as we have had ample proof, the US attempted to silence doctors as whisteblowers for months afterwards. And there is zero chance the US could have kept it in their borders.

So it's a bit disingenuous to see Western nations point fingers as if a) they would have any shot at preventing it from getting out (especially when, compared with China, they are nowhere close to controlling it a year later even with vaccines available), and b) they would clamp down on their citizens and isolate them immediately to prevent spillover to neighboring countries.

This has basically become an international game of "who farted?"

Booger sends his compliments @Hust

 

[DAiDEViL]

As regions are edging closer towards the totally random incidence mark of 50 - why not lower it to 35 so we can have the lockdown last longer? @lgorTudor

 

[Post Ironic]

As regions are edging closer towards the totally random incidence mark of 50 - why not lower it to 35 so we can have the lockdown last longer? @lgorTudor

You peasants still stuck in lockdown. We have progressive poster boy Justin as our prime minister and we still haven’t had a real lockdown, no curfews, no stay-at-home orders, no limits on travelling within the country, 1 year into this.

 

[lgorTudor]

As regions are edging closer towards the totally random incidence mark of 50 - why not lower it to 35 so we can have the lockdown last longer? @lgorTudor

DON'T CARE - GOT FRISEURTERMIN ON 1ST OF MARCH at 8AM
LgorYeti out

You peasants still stuck in lockdown. We have progressive poster boy Justin as our prime minister and we still haven’t had a real lockdown, no curfews, no stay-at-home orders, no limits on travelling within the country, 1 year into this.

60x the population density plus your immigrats are asians, not savages

it's not rocket science, since even Fidel Jr managed as you said

 

[DAiDEViL]

DON'T CARE - GOT FRISEURTERMIN ON 1ST OF MARCH at 8AM
LgorYeti out

My hair are covering my nipples at this point @Lapa

 

[Post Ironic]

DON'T CARE - GOT FRISEURTERMIN ON 1ST OF MARCH at 8AM
LgorYeti out

60x the population density plus your immigrats are asians, not savages

it's not rocket science, since even Fidel Jr managed as you said

Don’t worry, I’m sending hugs to you too. Enjoy lockdown forever

 

[DAiDEViL]

Don’t worry, I’m sending hugs to you too. Enjoy lockdown forever

You can be that one person that's allowed to visit me. Feel honored.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

You peasants still stuck in lockdown. We have progressive poster boy Justin as our prime minister and we still haven’t had a real lockdown, no curfews, no stay-at-home orders, no limits on travelling within the country, 1 year into this.

Ontario's got stay at home orders

 

[Post Ironic]

You can be that one person that's allowed to visit me. Feel honored.

I don’t wanna be locked down.

You visit me instead. We’ll head out surfing.

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Ontario's got stay at home orders

Are you there now? I had no idea they were doing that anywhere but Quebec in the country. We were out in Ontario in the autumn raising a little timber frame house, and there was nothing then, but I guess things got significantly worse there after that.
Our premier has asked us at various times to avoid non-essential travel, but never made it an order. Even in Vancouver. The only thing they’ve really enforced is fining people for throwing/attending big parties. We had a school shutdown for a couple weeks in the spring, but nothing since. Every thing has been allowed to stay open all fall/winter at reduced occupancy levels.

 

[DAiDEViL]

You visit me instead. We’ll head out surfing.

Later we have a glass of wine and read a good book next to the fireplace

 

[pavluska]

I like Unherd. But this buys more into the make-believe fairytale that a modern economy with millions of tourists and business travelers floating in and out of customs daily could somehow prevent a virus from escaping national borders.

That article is more about origin of the virus

WHO continues to be servile to CCP

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Or what @Quetzalcoatl already said