Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (73 Viewers)

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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lol looks like Umbrella @CrimsonianKing

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How long til someone points his finger at the Ziegler Group for the high numbers in Tirschenreuth. Importing them Rona' sick on a daily basis. But too big of an employer in that region to piss them off and shut them down.
 
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AFL_ITALIA

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I have to say, even though I still think we should find ways to increase the speed of vaccinations, the United States is doing surprisingly well. Top 5 in the world for doses administered per 100 people. Far behind leaders Israel, but still well ahead of the rest of the world. With our production capabilities, I don't understand how we're not producing and administering vaccines 24/7 though.

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/...t&stackMode=absolute&time=latest&region=World
 

swag

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Sep 23, 2003
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what's going on in portugal? just read some local news that said that your govt lifted restrictions for only 4 days around christmas when the english variant was already in the country, and consequently everything went south
We had our California moment. After managing things fairly well for 9 months, we pulled an L.A. People got tired and complacent. The government was kind of dumb promising a little leniency for Christmas but a tougher lockdown on New Years, and that apparently opened the gates enough for families to jump on airplanes and bring back UK and South African variants. I think it's a combination of being a more contagious form, public fatigue, and my big one: nature abhors a vacuum.

After leading the world for a couple weeks in per capita COVID infections and deaths, things seem to finally be levelling off. Activity in the streets finally started to taper down significantly for the past couple of weeks... the first week or two of lockdown was sloppy and poorly adhered too as the counts went up.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info...tz-Impfung-infiziert,coronaliveticker822.html

i don't understand a word of it. based on this post, a local website reported that 14 residents of a german nursing home got infected by the english variant despite receiving the pfizer vaccine weeks before. let's hope the vaccine at least help them to avoid severe symptoms.
Is that a new thing?

Think I read before that you could still get Corona and also spread it, despite being vaccinated. You just won't develop any severe symptoms.

Or am I wrong here?


https://m.faz.net/aktuell/gesellsch...he-corona-variante-getestet-17185702.amp.html

"...The district of Osnabrück has had an outbreak of the British Corona variant despite the people being vaccinated. In 14 seniors, the virus B.1.1.7. has been found - even though all residents received their second shot with the vaccine on January 25. All employees and their families have been quarantined. Eugen Brysch from the German Foundation for Patient Protection asked the Ministry of Health to closely monitor nursing homes after the second vaccination. Otherwise there would be no reliable data on the risk that the mutation poses for the high-risk group.

So far there have only been asymptomatic or mild courses of the disease, which could be a positive effect of the vaccination, said the press spokesman for the Osnabrück district, Burkhard Riepenhoff.

It is becoming more and more apparent that vaccinated people are not immune to the corona virus and could also pass it on, said Brysch. The vaccination could be helpful to prevent the outbreak of the disease. "It doesn't have to be a horror scenario, we'll have to live with the virus," he said.
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s4tch

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Mar 23, 2015
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Is that a new thing?

Think I read before that you could still get Corona and also spread it, despite being vaccinated. You just won't develop any severe symptoms.

Or am I wrong here?
not at all. you can get infected after vaccination, you just won't develop symptoms. my point was the last sentence: as far as i know, it is still not well documented whether the vaccine protects against symptoms caused by english or south african variant. i read the other day that the astrazeneca stuff has limited protection for the latter.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
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Is that a new thing?

Think I read before that you could still get Corona and also spread it, despite being vaccinated. You just won't develop any severe symptoms.

Or am I wrong here?


https://m.faz.net/aktuell/gesellsch...he-corona-variante-getestet-17185702.amp.html

"...The district of Osnabrück has had an outbreak of the British Corona variant despite the people being vaccinated. In 14 seniors, the virus B.1.1.7. has been found - even though all residents received their second shot with the vaccine on January 25. All employees and their families have been quarantined. Eugen Brysch from the German Foundation for Patient Protection asked the Ministry of Health to closely monitor nursing homes after the second vaccination. Otherwise there would be no reliable data on the risk that the mutation poses for the high-risk group.

So far there have only been asymptomatic or mild courses of the disease, which could be a positive effect of the vaccination, said the press spokesman for the Osnabrück district, Burkhard Riepenhoff.

It is becoming more and more apparent that vaccinated people are not immune to the corona virus and could also pass it on, said Brysch. The vaccination could be helpful to prevent the outbreak of the disease. "It doesn't have to be a horror scenario, we'll have to live with the virus," he said."
yeah, basically like the flu vaccine. In cases where you do catch it, the symptoms are mild or non existent. And yes, this has been known all along.
 

DAiDEViL

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Feb 21, 2015
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I read the other day that the astrazeneca stuff has limited protection for the latter.
South Africa apparently already stopped using the AstraZeneca one for now.

And we didn't even bother giving it to people over the age of 65 anyway because of the lack of evidence that it actually works for them.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-safrica-idUKKBN2A70PY

"South Africa will suspend use of AstraZeneca’s COVID-19 shot in its vaccination programme after data showed it gave minimal protection against mild to moderate infection caused by the country’s dominant coronavirus variant.

Health Minister Zweli Mkhize said on Sunday the government would await advice from scientists on how best to proceed, after disappointing results in a trial conducted by the University of the Witwatersrand.


The government had intended to roll the AstraZeneca shot out to healthcare workers soon, after receiving 1 million doses produced by the Serum Institute of India on Monday.

Instead, it will offer vaccines developed by Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer in the coming weeks while experts consider how the AstraZeneca shot can be deployed"
 

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