Coronavirus (COVID-19 Outbreak) (44 Viewers)

[swag]

Probably the guy who eats fried rice and pangolin?

Pangolin fried rice is my favorite.

The article isn't about letting China virus escape but about the supposed sham of an investigation by WHO.

WHO trusted China's information without taking it at face value, and China was clearly trying to cover stuff up. I don't think there's any legitimate debate about that. But the horses have been out of the barn for a year now.

I honestly don't think that ultimately made any difference. This pandemic was going to play out as it's playing out regardless. Too many global interests in commerce, trade, tourism, business travel, etc., to realistically prevent its global spread. And WHO basically takes its orders from its member countries, who payroll its existence.

There was complicity across the board, and different nations are trying to excuse themselves of culpability by scapegoating.

DON'T CARE - GOT FRISEURTERMIN ON 1ST OF MARCH at 8AM
LgorYeti out

60x the population density plus your immigrats are asians, not savages

it's not rocket science, since even Fidel Jr managed as you said

It's turning out to be interesting how Asians are being blamed and harassed worldwide as COVID creators/carriers, and yet some of the scientific research is showing that many Asians lack the protein mutations that make them as susceptible to the disease as Europeans and North Americans:
https://www.livemint.com/science/ne...n-asia-11612936622101.html#box_11612936622101

Now if I was a conspiracy guy, I'd say this was pan-Asian bioterrorism against the Western world.

That article is more about origin of the virus

WHO continues to be servile to CCP

That ship sailed a year ago. The only people left who don't think Wuhan was at the epicenter of its origins are conspiracy theorists.

And WHO is ultimately servile to everybody funding it. You literally get what you pay for.

 

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[kao_ray]

You make it sound like Chinese authorities falsifying W.H.O. investigation about the origin of the virus is no big deal. It's not about finding a scapegoat, but to prevent future similar pandemics. Now CCP know they owe zero accountability and can do whatever they want. No big deal.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Damn, disliking a swag post

 

[swag]

You make it sound like Chinese authorities falsifying W.H.O. investigation about the origin of the virus is no big deal. It's not about finding a scapegoat, but to prevent future similar pandemics. Now CCP know they owe zero accountability and can do whatever they want. No big deal.

The WHO isn't set up to succeed at policing the likes of China or the US for that matter. So why are we expecting it to be able to police nation states like China or the US?

This is a bit like blaming the theater usher for not preventing the Aurora, CO mass shooting during The Dark Knight Rises.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Are you there now? I had no idea they were doing that anywhere but Quebec in the country. We were out in Ontario in the autumn raising a little timber frame house, and there was nothing then, but I guess things got significantly worse there after that.
Our premier has asked us at various times to avoid non-essential travel, but never made it an order. Even in Vancouver. The only thing they’ve really enforced is fining people for throwing/attending big parties. We had a school shutdown for a couple weeks in the spring, but nothing since. Every thing has been allowed to stay open all fall/winter at reduced occupancy levels.

yeah I'm here now but this started before I arrived, since early December I think. They're now beginning to relax restrictions in some parts but already there's talk of a big third wave coming in April so...

 

[Post Ironic]

yeah I'm here now but this started before I arrived, since early December I think. They're now beginning to relax restrictions in some parts but already there's talk of a big third wave coming in April so...

Yeah. It’s really hard to tell what’s going on right now. I’m supposed to be working out there in cottage country for a few weeks in April, so really hoping they don’t keep going with this nonsense. Don’t want to have to quarantine when I return to BC either. Lol

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Yeah. It’s really hard to tell what’s going on right now. I’m supposed to be working out there in cottage country for a few weeks in April, so really hoping they don’t keep going with this nonsense. Don’t want to have to quarantine when I return to BC either. Lol

It looks like the rural and suburban areas are doing better (as you'd expect) so hopefully it won't affect you

 

[s4tch]

@DAiDEViL @swag re virus load of vaccinees that we mentioned the other day: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.06.21251283v1

Beyond their substantial protection of individual vaccinees, it is hoped that the COVID-19 vaccines would reduce viral load in breakthrough infections thereby further suppress onward transmission. Here, analyzing positive SARS-CoV-2 test results following inoculation with the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, we find that the viral load is reduced 4-fold for infections occurring 12-28 days after the first dose of vaccine. These reduced viral loads hint to lower infectiousness, further contributing to vaccine impact on virus spread.

 

[swag]

@DAiDEViL @swag re virus load of vaccinees that we mentioned the other day: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.06.21251283v1

Beyond their substantial protection of individual vaccinees, it is hoped that the COVID-19 vaccines would reduce viral load in breakthrough infections thereby further suppress onward transmission. Here, analyzing positive SARS-CoV-2 test results following inoculation with the BNT162b2 mRNA vaccine, we find that the viral load is reduced 4-fold for infections occurring 12-28 days after the first dose of vaccine. These reduced viral loads hint to lower infectiousness, further contributing to vaccine impact on virus spread.

It's critical and promising. But it's nothing like the 95% we hear for symptoms. Fingers crossed. Without addressing transmission, the whole idea of vaccine passports doesn't make much sense unless everyone is vaccinated. Your vaccine passport otherwise just signals your lower likelihood of being personally hospitalized.

 

[DAiDEViL]

I really wonder what the czech are doing over there.

incidences over 1000

Keep them away ffs.

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And they even end their lockdown

 

[kao_ray]

@lgorTudor

 

[swag]

@lgorTudor

That someone took the effort and energy to make a video out of this tells me much about the times we live in.

2.5 million dead with multiple, more contagious variants spreading, and what are we focused on? Flogging horses from 14 months ago.

 

[kao_ray]

From 30:50 to 44:00 - how corrupt is the W.H.O. investigation and how involved is the american representative. Disgusting.

@lgorTudor @Post Ironic @DAiDEViL @GordoDeCentral

 

[Stevie]

I can get the vaccine Friday if I want. I haven't done too much research into it so was wondering that was the general opinion about it? Is it safe/ worth taking.

It's the Astrazeneca vaccine.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

It's critical and promising. But it's nothing like the 95% we hear for symptoms. Fingers crossed. Without addressing transmission, the whole idea of vaccine passports doesn't make much sense unless everyone is vaccinated. Your vaccine passport otherwise just signals your lower likelihood of being personally hospitalized.

But isn’t that the most important thing?

If the vaccines prevent hospitalisations and death from covid, they’ll have done their job. Bringing COVID to the level of the common cold will allow us to open up and get on with life.

 

[s4tch]

I can get the vaccine Friday if I want. I haven't done too much research into it so was wondering that was the general opinion about it? Is it safe/ worth taking.

It's the Astrazeneca vaccine.

yes, absolutely. do it.

i'm likely to get one around september-december, and it can either be some eu/usa vaccine or the chinese one, i'll find out on location

 

[swag]

But isn’t that the most important thing?

If the vaccines prevent hospitalisations and death from covid, they’ll have done their job. Bringing COVID to the level of the common cold will allow us to open up and get on with life.

It is the most important thing. But for most people that is nowhere near good enough. Your life will still suck, you will just get to be healthy. It is a huge leap from "I'm protected" to "I can jump on a plane and fly to a concert where I'll hug my grandma".

Yes, nobody wants to go to the hospital, or die. But what you call "getting on with life" for most people doesn't include having to continue wearing masks, socially distance, not being able to go to DJ shows, not being able to travel, not being able to hug relatives, etc. It's still a massively debilitating social pain in the ass, let alone the hamstrung economics.

Your personal vaccine makes incremental headway, but it doesn't solve the rest.

Much of the world seems a bit deluded that once they get their vaccine, life returns to normal.

 

[lgorTudor]

i'm likely to get one around september-december, and it can either be some eu/usa vaccine or the chinese one, i'll find out on location

But you're surely allowed to walk away if that's the one you don't want?

 

[DAiDEViL]

But you're surely allowed to walk away if that's the one you don't want?

If you walk out you get sputnik.

 

[Salvo]

It is the most important thing. But for most people that is nowhere near good enough. Your life will still suck, you will just get to be healthy. It is a huge leap from "I'm protected" to "I can jump on a plane and fly to a concert where I'll hug my grandma".

Yes, nobody wants to go to the hospital, or die. But what you call "getting on with life" for most people doesn't include having to continue wearing masks, socially distance, not being able to go to DJ shows, not being able to travel, not being able to hug relatives, etc. It's still a massively debilitating social pain in the ass, let alone the hamstrung economics.

Your personal vaccine makes incremental headway, but it doesn't solve the rest.

Much of the world seems a bit deluded that once they get their vaccine, life returns to normal.

It will take quite a long time before things are back to pre covid normal