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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Came across this great assessment:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-airbnb-become-obsolete-after-the-coronavirus

It's pretty clear that AirBnB is a pay-to-let scheme for investors and not at all about communities and sharing economies. And I write you this living on the only inhabited unit of a 6-story building in the heart of Lisbon. Every other floor was dedicated to AirBnB leasing. Mine was only converted from an AirBnB by us because our landlord had three kids and grew tired of the hassle and thus turned it over to longer-term locals.

AirBnB won't go away. But its business model has probably just been sliced to 20% of what it was three months ago, now that so many real estate speculators are naked with extra mortgages and having to flood the local rental market with anywhere from 40-60% more inventory that was previously locked up for tourists.

Oh man, this means that 30-40% of the rental property market in major cities across the world is backed by an overextended owner bankrupt of any revenue streams to cover costs for many, many months. This has to be another real estate scam meltdown coming in the works globally in the next 3-6 months. This isn't even a question of tenants holding off on paying rent and governments helping with a bailout. These are property speculators with fallow assets and zero income to fend off mortgage defaults.

If you want to know why millennials have been unable to afford a place in cities, here's your smoking gun. The inventory was being used as an asset to store capital. Ironically, millennials paying for AirBnBs everywhere were contributing to why they could never afford these places.
 
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Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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I’d rather stay in an Airbnb than hotel and I think most people feel the same. I think the business will be fine, people love to travel and will get right back into it once planes are back up.
It needs some form of regulation. AirBnB, as it is right now, will make once affordable communities into something like block hotels, forces many out, and drives the rent up for the ones who cannot leave.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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It needs some form of regulation. AirBnB, as it is right now, will make once affordable communities into something like block hotels, forces many out, and drives the rent up for the ones who cannot leave.
Regulation and some form of limited licensing. Most cities on the coast here in Canada have huge rental unit availability issues right now because people are willing to leave places either empty or only offer short term rentals through the winter because they can make so much more through basically unregulated and unlicensed air’bnb over the nicer 6 months of the year.

Hotels played a part in this, getting more and more expensive, to the point it was close to impossible for the average person to stay in them during travels... but air’bnb as a cure for this is causing a lot of problems, even though personally, being selfish, I like using air’bnb.
 

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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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Regulation and some form of limited licensing. Most cities on the coast here in Canada have huge rental unit availability issues right now because people are willing to leave places either empty or only offer short term rentals through the winter because they can make so much more through basically unregulated and unlicensed air’bnb over the nicer 6 months of the year.

Hotels played a part in this, getting more and more expensive, to the point it was close to impossible for the average person to stay in them during travels... but air’bnb as a cure for this is causing a lot of problems, even though personally, being selfish, I like using air’bnb.
I think governments may need to foreclose on all the speculation owners who won't be able to make their mortgages -- give them a discounted value on the property and create quasi-federal housing out of them until at which point over time they can be privatized to actual resident owners. Because the buy-to-let model is really just another form of stupid that got people buying houses in Las Vegas on interest-only loans 13 years ago. A good idea got financialized to the point where it was superfragile and capable of mass financial and neighborhood destruction.

I do have to say though, it is pretty awesome having a 6-story building all to myself with no other tenants but the two of us. But that just reflects the magnitude of the overleveraged financial disaster all around me.

I don't blame hotels at all for this. Few jacked their prices up to make bigger profits, because they weren't all that profitable. They paid taxes, the employed people in the local economy, and they were zoned in ways as to not gut neighborhoods of their residents and the stores that served those residents.

AirBnB created a regulatory loophole that got exploited massively to the point of collapse. And yes, the units were cheaper than hotels. But the act of using them was just setting us all up for eventual systemic failure and collapse.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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The WHO is a bit cornered to be honest. If they say anything that doesn't remotely go China's way, the CCP will throw a tantrum and that is probably not the time for that. Especially since they supply goods and medical personnel to other countries
This is the kind of appeasement attitude that got us in this mess, for all his faults Trump just doesn't put up with that shit and i respect him for that. China is a clear and immediate danger that we need to address without being bogged down about the possible consequences, this is an existentialist threat.
 

campionesidd

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Mar 16, 2013
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This is the kind of appeasement attitude that got us in this mess, for all his faults Trump just doesn't put up with that shit and i respect him for that. China is a clear and immediate danger that we need to address without being bogged down about the possible consequences, this is an existentialist threat.
Yeah, Trump is right about blaming China.
He also shouldn't forget to blame himself.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
19,563
This is the kind of appeasement attitude that got us in this mess, for all his faults Trump just doesn't put up with that shit and i respect him for that. China is a clear and immediate danger that we need to address without being bogged down about the possible consequences, this is an existentialist threat.
What do you think the net impact of these proposals are? US pays 23% of WHO's funding.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/02/1...ronavirus-state-department-usaid-budget-cuts/
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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This is the kind of appeasement attitude that got us in this mess, for all his faults Trump just doesn't put up with that shit and i respect him for that. China is a clear and immediate danger that we need to address without being bogged down about the possible consequences, this is an existentialist threat.
I agree they are a danger, but should they be dealt with during the pandemic? I'm simply wondering
 

Osman

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Aug 30, 2002
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I agree they are a danger, but should they be dealt with during the pandemic? I'm simply wondering
No i don't think we should do it now and i don't think we should take em on head on either, but it doesn't mean our resolve should genuflect to their every whim for fear of upsetting them, we should grow some balls and prepare for sacrifices or at least bluff to that.
 

Ronn

#TeamPestoFlies
May 3, 2012
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I meant his attitude towards China in general, and one of the takeaways from this pandemic is how utterly useless and china cucked the WHO is. Would you say anything would be different if the WHO didn't exist?
There's a difference between Trump's hurr durr and actual policy proposals that his majesty doesn't have a clue about. Trump and his base are all about cutting foreign aid in the name of America First, and generally downplaying coalition building. That opens a gap, which China can benefit from.
 

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