We don't really know what would have happened if Giovinco had been used much earlier. Giovanni Dos Santos and Bojan were introduced too early and their career didn't skyrocket since then.
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Actually I think that Giovinco should b introduced at January when Nedved's performance deteriorated. Sometimes I'm thinking since Nedved is gonna retire and can't really hang on anymore and Gio is frequently on the bench, might as well introduce Gio and reduce Nedved's role gradually. This way both Nedved can be rested and Gio will slowly gain more experience with composure
A bit too late to introduce Gio now but the season can still be rescued.
A bit too late to introduce Gio now but the season can still be rescued.
Ahh yes, very well said. I mean, perhaps we're using Giovinco too early even now. You never know. Perhaps this will backfire and we should only use him once his age becomes ripe, as in 30 years old. Don't wanna take a chance now do we, right?
No offense but you're someone who should sort your life out and stop being a pussy. I mean that with the full backing of Juventus.
This is to the idiot with the Dog's name. Don't care if this person is offended.
No offense but you're someone who should sort your life out and stop being a pussy. I mean that with the full backing of Juventus.
This is to the idiot with the Dog's name. Don't care if this person is offended.
Of course people will come out to say all this prolonging of introducing Giovinco was a good thing designed by Ranieri to nurture his growth, even despite the fact he did similar stuff early on. People are idiots, so word up to them.
Gotta love these footballing terrorists. Surely they are correct. Forza false flag, inside job terror.
Gotta love these footballing terrorists. Surely they are correct. Forza false flag, inside job terror.
what is this all about?
Firstly, I don't know if there is any fan here who loves CR more than any our player, but you and few others, always make sure that it looks that way.
There are no terrorists, there is no false flag, no one hate DP or Tiago.
I can say that DP had very bad game last night, especially in 1st half. And you tell me how many clear cut chances he missed?
I am sure DP was bit angry with CR last night, as this one probably gave not only to him but to others real bollocking at half time, and within the reason. Don't you think so?
But let me tell you something, YOU are the one who hates CR, you are the one who can't stand Molinaro, Grygera, Poulsen, Marchioni, you are the one who expecting miracle from "looser" coach and so on...
So dont talk here about football terrorist and other crap as you are the one who hates those players, and not most of us who praise performance but also criticize where is due..
Forza Juve (no false flag here)
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Firstly, I don't know if there is any fan here who loves CR more than any our player, but you and few others, always make sure that it looks that way.
There are no terrorists, there is no false flag, no one hate DP or Tiago.
I can say that DP had very bad game last night, especially in 1st half. And you tell me how many clear cut chances he missed?
I am sure DP was bit angry with CR last night, as this one probably gave not only to him but to others real bollocking at half time, and within the reason. Don't you think so?
But let me tell you something, YOU are the one who hates CR, you are the one who can't stand Molinaro, Grygera, Poulsen, Marchioni, you are the one who expecting miracle from "looser" coach and so on...
So dont talk here about football terrorist and other crap as you are the one who hates those players, and not most of us who praise performance but also criticize where is due..
Forza Juve (no false flag here)
:flag3:
I mentioned Hamsik only because we were loosely rumored/connected to him.
(some people would hurry to would accuse me of inventing transfer rumors, if i de mention another player, like someone from Palermo for ex, or others would doubt the player i would mention, delibaterally missing my point)
Thats why i said someone else like him. We have a whole league to choose from, but my point is that we didnt even try, because that was not our priority!
We had several players to use as bargain chips, several players co owned or loaned out there. We still have a decent influence on some of the Italian teams,
adding 15mil to that cause and you get our only realistic chance to pull that through.
We have bought enough mid-class players to afford a couple of top class ones.
And remember that you said that they are supposed to be strategical choices, players that would help us in the future, but in the future they cant be the backbone of a competitive Juve and if they were the second choice, they would only deny that chance from our youngsters!
Again you are missing my point, that those transfers had no real strategical value!
And this excuse should not be abused!
| see that we agree on Secco's incompetence, but who else is too blame then!
Secco sux, Gigli too, Blanc has got some brains, but lesser influence and high level exp. CR is the only man exp enough to offer smth, but i am afraid he is only a pawn...
(some people would hurry to would accuse me of inventing transfer rumors, if i de mention another player, like someone from Palermo for ex, or others would doubt the player i would mention, delibaterally missing my point)
Thats why i said someone else like him. We have a whole league to choose from, but my point is that we didnt even try, because that was not our priority!
We had several players to use as bargain chips, several players co owned or loaned out there. We still have a decent influence on some of the Italian teams,
adding 15mil to that cause and you get our only realistic chance to pull that through.
We have bought enough mid-class players to afford a couple of top class ones.
And remember that you said that they are supposed to be strategical choices, players that would help us in the future, but in the future they cant be the backbone of a competitive Juve and if they were the second choice, they would only deny that chance from our youngsters!
Again you are missing my point, that those transfers had no real strategical value!
And this excuse should not be abused!
| see that we agree on Secco's incompetence, but who else is too blame then!
Secco sux, Gigli too, Blanc has got some brains, but lesser influence and high level exp. CR is the only man exp enough to offer smth, but i am afraid he is only a pawn...
Yeah, I'd agree we did have bargain chips, but again, I doubt it would be better to bring in a rotation class creative midfielder. I actually quite sure we tried, even though that ain't much considering Secco pulling the strings.
Yes I said they were strategical for long term as second choice. As I said before, it seems clear to me we never really targeted seriously the scudetto, we only targeted a top 4 or 3 finish, which is why we opted for a bigger squad with less quality.
Had we opted for smaller squad with more quality, we might not have enough to do well on 3 fronts. And thus get kicked out of both CL and Coppa and also be less than 2nd place. It was a risk, and our board simply did not want to take it.
Secco does suck, but I think Gigli and Blanc have more than enough to do.
Remember, they don't only think about transfers (G n B), they oversee expenses, income (balance the books), marketing, human resources and many other things to run Juventus.
Yes I said they were strategical for long term as second choice. As I said before, it seems clear to me we never really targeted seriously the scudetto, we only targeted a top 4 or 3 finish, which is why we opted for a bigger squad with less quality.
Had we opted for smaller squad with more quality, we might not have enough to do well on 3 fronts. And thus get kicked out of both CL and Coppa and also be less than 2nd place. It was a risk, and our board simply did not want to take it.
Secco does suck, but I think Gigli and Blanc have more than enough to do.
Remember, they don't only think about transfers (G n B), they oversee expenses, income (balance the books), marketing, human resources and many other things to run Juventus.
I think a smaller squad, with more quality and a larger role to our youngsters would offer more or less the same results, without a great loss to the practical overall quality but maybe an advanced help from the quality to the games we have suffered from lack of quality. And most important, a much more easier and effective work, for the building up of our future, competitive Juve.
Tiago, Almiron, Poulsen, Andrade etc already proved that they were not essential to our cause. History has already proven that!
And chances are, that they are not going to be essential to our cause, in the future either...
We could have trusted our youngsters more and maybe bring some of them earlier. We could also keep some of the squad players, we released for nothing, for added depth. The loses on results would have been minimal, esp if the youngsters/released players, were paired with a couple of quality and reliable starters!
A couple of quality starters/season would already give as a competitive squad, starting from next year! 2+2+2= half of the squad +Chiellini+ Buffon+ Treze+ DP+ Camo+ only a couple of our most promising youngsters (like Marchisio+Giovinco), would give us a full squad, of competitive players!
A squad that actually has a chance to win smth.
By the time we are going to add those extra players we didnt, DP, Treze and Camo will be nearly retirement and we will have to replace them instead of adding more starters!
Thats why i insistent we shouldnt waste so much time
Esp not this year...
PS If Poulsen was a strategical choice as a sub for a future competitive team, then why didnt we offload Tiago already,we keep Zanetti and we got Marchisio for? The Marchisio was brought in for that particular role. We should first decide if he is good enough to be a starter and then decide if we need a starter or a sub like Poulsen when Zanetti or Tiago leaves us.
In the mean time, when we buy subs that might be useful for the future, we lack starters today in our defense. When are we going to start enhancing our defense?? With the money we used to get Poulsen, we could get a starter full back!
Tiago, Almiron, Poulsen, Andrade etc already proved that they were not essential to our cause. History has already proven that!
And chances are, that they are not going to be essential to our cause, in the future either...
We could have trusted our youngsters more and maybe bring some of them earlier. We could also keep some of the squad players, we released for nothing, for added depth. The loses on results would have been minimal, esp if the youngsters/released players, were paired with a couple of quality and reliable starters!
A couple of quality starters/season would already give as a competitive squad, starting from next year! 2+2+2= half of the squad +Chiellini+ Buffon+ Treze+ DP+ Camo+ only a couple of our most promising youngsters (like Marchisio+Giovinco), would give us a full squad, of competitive players!
A squad that actually has a chance to win smth.
By the time we are going to add those extra players we didnt, DP, Treze and Camo will be nearly retirement and we will have to replace them instead of adding more starters!
Thats why i insistent we shouldnt waste so much time
Esp not this year...
PS If Poulsen was a strategical choice as a sub for a future competitive team, then why didnt we offload Tiago already,we keep Zanetti and we got Marchisio for? The Marchisio was brought in for that particular role. We should first decide if he is good enough to be a starter and then decide if we need a starter or a sub like Poulsen when Zanetti or Tiago leaves us.
In the mean time, when we buy subs that might be useful for the future, we lack starters today in our defense. When are we going to start enhancing our defense?? With the money we used to get Poulsen, we could get a starter full back!
Some here seems to be amazed from what they've seen yesterday from Gio where the guy impressed every single time he played with the Azzurrini or even with Empoli last season.
The sad thing is Gio IMO won't stick around long in this club with ranieri on charge. When we'll get a replacement for nedved next summer, he'll get less and less chance to play and when del piero finally decides to step down and retire, both Amauri and trezeguet will be first choice for ranieri in the attack. Can't see Gio getting any first team action with us in the next 2-3 years....
The sad thing is Gio IMO won't stick around long in this club with ranieri on charge. When we'll get a replacement for nedved next summer, he'll get less and less chance to play and when del piero finally decides to step down and retire, both Amauri and trezeguet will be first choice for ranieri in the attack. Can't see Gio getting any first team action with us in the next 2-3 years....
