[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (10 Viewers)

Ekram

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
56
Azzurri7 said:
his 2003/04 wasn't THAT great nor bad, It was kinda medium.....he was moved alongside Sol Campbell as a makeshift centre-half....(Thanks to Wenger). Because since he was playing at that position Arsenal problems were decreasing and going towards the Championship.


I'll name you as you asked me another mistake he did apart from the one Vs L'Pool....

You probably should remmber Chelsea game.....(Robben)

i don't remeber just tell me
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
Azzurri7 said:
his 2003/04 wasn't THAT great nor bad, It was kinda medium.....he was moved alongside Sol Campbell as a makeshift centre-half....(Thanks to Wenger). Because since he was playing at that position Arsenal problems were decreasing and going towards the Championship.


I'll name you as you asked me another mistake he did apart from the one Vs L'Pool....

You probably should remmber Chelsea game.....(Robben)
Kolo was playing as a CB for Ivory Coast before he joined Arsenal. Please at least do some research before you spew what you call a fact.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
ThaiGunner said:
Is your handle tassard or actually 'tard?

True that Jens wasn't in his best form last season....but he's far from being a disgrace this season. Actually I would put him as one of the best keepers in England thsi season. On a number of games, when our young players were still lacking confidence and finding their feet, he did bail us out several times.

Case in the point, the away L'pool game this season.

Tard, you need to watch Arsenal more before you come to a 'tard-ish conclusion like this.

And Toure is better than Cana. He's got every thing, pace, positioning sense, strength, aerial ability, game reading ability...all the good attrengths you want in a great defender.
seriously, toure is very good, but he is not better than fabio cannavaro a man who tackles shevchenko with a backheel for fun :disagree:
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
ThaiGunner said:
Face it...you schmugs....you were beaten by a better team last Tuesday. Series A is a joke.

And had we not had Sol, Cole, Clichy, Lauren out, you would be in ever sorrier state right now.

Count yourself lucky that you were only beaten by 2 goals.

Kolo not in the same class as Cana.... Hahahahahhahahahahahahahha LMAO



You Arsenal fans are probably THE most Fickle fans ive ever seen. What cos you beat us 2-0 you now have the best team in the world? Think juve would have loved to have had 10days rest before that game. David Dein instigated that the pompey game should be called off cos you guys were shitting ya pants cos you had us tue and didnt wanna risk any injuries, while we played a game of war with arch rivals Roma and got a miserable 2days rest and travelled to London.

the same happened to your game against Real before the Bernabeu you had 10days rest.

And now your all partying like your already into the Semis! Silently confident more like.

You guys are a bunch of mugs! nearly 20points+ behind Chelsea while were 8points clear in the most hardest league in europe.


Henry will leave and then lets see what your Fickle arses will come back and post.
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
ThaiGunner said:
Is your handle tassard or actually 'tard?

True that Jens wasn't in his best form last season....but he's far from being a disgrace this season. Actually I would put him as one of the best keepers in England thsi season. On a number of games, when our young players were still lacking confidence and finding their feet, he did bail us out several times.

Case in the point, the away L'pool game this season.

Tard, you need to watch Arsenal more before you come to a 'tard-ish conclusion like this.

And Toure is better than Cana. He's got every thing, pace, positioning sense, strength, aerial ability, game reading ability...all the good attrengths you want in a great defender.

I have better things to do than wasting my time and watching medicore middle-table teams
 
Sep 28, 2002
13,975
robinvanpersie said:
The fact that you think a defender can become world class overnight is ridiculous in itself. Eboue may have gotten much much better after the African Cup of Nations but you definitely cannot say that Toure became the player he is only after the ACN. If you had watched all of Arsenal's games this season you would've seen that he together with Jens was keeping us together at times and that our horrible form during the ACN was obviously largely due to him missing. I don't see how you can compare Toure who's playing with a young, inexperienced, make-shift defence with players such as Nesta and Cannavaro who are playing with some of the world's best defenders and best goalkeepers (Dida's pretty shit this year but still). I didn't see Nesta keeping Milan together this year when teams like Parma (I think) put 3 goals past them. By the way, I didn't say Toure is better than Nesta, I'm just saying that you really can't say Nesta is better because of where Milan is in the table, how many goals they've conceded nor can you say that he's better than Toure at all until they play in a relatively equal quality defensive line. I do think that Toure can be ranked up there with the world's best and I'd say that one current form he is the best at the moment (Terry's made some pretty silly mistakes this year which have gone unnoticed at times, Milan's defence was again, shit and Rio Ferdinand who used to be ranked up there with them has had some absolutely atrocious performances for Manu this year). Also, I'd say that an Arsenal fan, biased as one may be, is in a much better position to judge Kolo Toure as a defender than you are seeing how we watch him every game (I watched every Ivory Coast game bar one in the ACN as well).

Also, I remember being laughed at by Juve fans when I dared compare Eboue to the great Zebina, even while Eboue was in amazing form and Zebina had only played like 4 (?) games the whole season.
quality post. yeah, i agree, kolo may not be up there with the big boys, but its only a matter of time and also reputation. tell a striker he has to play against nesta or terry, and he'd be scared, kolo is not on that level just yet, though his performances might show otherwise. though i agree on one more thing, nesta and Jt havent done too well this season, while i never rated ferdinand that high.

kolo toure is class, who wouldve though 2-3 years ago. didnt he play right back back then? or maybe it was an odd game, dont remember..
 

robinvanpersie

Junior Member
Mar 25, 2006
66
Azzurri7 said:
his 2003/04 wasn't THAT great nor bad, It was kinda medium.....he was moved alongside Sol Campbell as a makeshift centre-half....(Thanks to Wenger). Because since he was playing at that position Arsenal problems were decreasing and going towards the Championship.


I'll name you as you asked me another mistake he did apart from the one Vs L'Pool....

You probably should remmber Chelsea game.....(Robben)
I don't remember how exactly that was his mistake? Maybe you mean Lauren's mistake? You know, not all black people are the same. :p Also, I asked for two mistakes. Even if you do find those two, you will find in my previous posts mistakes made by, for example, Nesta this year. No defender is perfect and Toure, on current form is one of the world's best defenders, he's fast, got good technical ability, makes great tackles, recovery runs, last ditch tackles, etc. and while his aerial ability isn't the best in the world it certainly is very good.

Also, ThaiGunner is obviously taking the piss so I don't see why you're wasting your time.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
The same could be said for kolo, he has gilberto or fabregas in front of him and lehman behind him.. jees what a stupid excuse.

Terry like it or not remains the best in EPL and has certainly won more premiership player of the month than kolo.
Nope- Makelele doesn't cross the halfway line. It's not an excuse and I'm not comparing him to Toure so that doesn't wash. Terry is very over-rated and as you fail to grasp what I'm saying, I guess you will see at the world cup when his errors and weaknesses are further exposed.

If you look at the stats for the prem, you will see that Terry is the 4th best english defender in the league, behind Rio (who is having his worst season in years), Jamie carragher and Ledley King. That's just the english ones, he is further behind a couple of others.
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
Moggi D'Messiah said:
You Arsenal fans are probably THE most Fickle fans ive ever seen. What cos you beat us 2-0 you now have the best team in the world? Think juve would have loved to have had 10days rest before that game. David Dein instigated that the pompey game should be called off cos you guys were shitting ya pants cos you had us tue and didnt wanna risk any injuries, while we played a game of war with arch rivals Roma and got a miserable 2days rest and travelled to London.

the same happened to your game against Real before the Bernabeu you had 10days rest.

And now your all partying like your already into the Semis! Silently confident more like.

You guys are a bunch of mugs! nearly 20points+ behind Chelsea while were 8points clear in the most hardest league in europe.


Henry will leave and then lets see what your Fickle arses will come back and post.

Every team that has success once in 30 years is like that.
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
Il Re said:
no they wouldn't, shevchenko is ukrainian not exactly a well known footballing nation yet he is considered the best striker in the world because arguably he is, drogba had a high reputation and he is form ivory coast, that doesnt have anything to do with it

They have all been held in high regard because of their transfee fees...not because of their true abilities.

Had Arsenal paid Bevereen for 25 mil for Kolo, you would all be sigining a different tune about him. He came to us on a cheap.

That's what makes the difference.
 
Sep 28, 2002
13,975
tassard said:
KOLO TOURE IS THE BEST???

FLASHBACK (Back in 2003)
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NICOLA LEGROTTAGLIE IS THE BEST DEFENDER OUT THERE!!!

oh fucking shut up! legro didnt play one signle good game for us, while kolo is leading the unkown defence which has the best record in this years champions league, concedint just two goals in 9 matches, a result that is better than ours last year, when our defence was the best on planet.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
robinvanpersie said:
Some of your friends were, as well.
which friends? i dont believe any juve fan here compared kolo to the likes of cana and put him in same category.


robinvanpersie said:
Umm.. calm down there mate, where did I say Nesta was a bad defender? Umm... let me think... nowhere. It was just there to prove that no defender is formidable and that even a Nesta can have a bad day or week or month.
Which is why I say he is better consistently, you have toure, but undoubtly kolo remains a question mark whilst nesta has prooven.



robinvanpersie said:
However, MOTD isn't really the best program to judge a player and the Arsenal games aren't always on there.
I take you must be going to all their matches right? MOTD has some of englands best analyst and you can almost certainly pre january have a go at toures performance.

Yes I said the below, but thats exactly what has give the player a better chance to play in the starting line up, that and other prior injuries, otherwise this conversation wouldnt have even happened.

"Lets face it the african nations cup is what made him become what he is prior to the Juve game."
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
northbank said:
If you look at the stats for the prem, you will see that Terry is the 4th best english defender in the league, behind Rio (who is having his worst season in years), Jamie carragher and Ledley King. That's just the english ones, he is further behind a couple of others.
Please show the stats its intriguing.
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
PhRoZeN said:
Yes we were beaten, by a better team? not exactly we were poor ourselves. As for your team being without Sol, Cole, etc.. well TBH you wouldnt have found yourself in the same position your in, the players like eboue and fabregas have actually brought a fresh approach to your team, something where I doubt arsene would even wanna bother putting the likes of cichy, Sol back on. Kolo has a lot to proove its his first real season as a "name".. cana has done it season in and season out... therefore the class remains different. Can kolo become the best? a longshot but there remains a small possibility.. just like there remains a small posibility that the likes of treviso's viali has.
Yo, fuckwit, Sol plays at CB and Cole plays at LB. How on earth playing both would equate to putting Eboue, a RB, and Cesc, a MF, on a bench?

Believe me had Cole or Clichy played at LB, it wouldn't have been just two goals we scored.
 

Gep

The Guv'nor
Jun 12, 2005
16,493
ThaiGunner said:
Then don't spew your tradish shit when you don't even know what you are talking about.


You can talk you shit stirring streak of piss!

Now Take your sorry ass ThaiGunner bullshit username and write some shit on your own Arsenal forum and wank on those pic of Henry that you guys have.
 

Ekram

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
56
Moggi D'Messiah said:
You Arsenal fans are probably THE most Fickle fans ive ever seen. What cos you beat us 2-0 you now have the best team in the world? Think juve would have loved to have had 10days rest before that game. David Dein instigated that the pompey game should be called off cos you guys were shitting ya pants cos you had us tue and didnt wanna risk any injuries, while we played a game of war with arch rivals Roma and got a miserable 2days rest and travelled to London.

the same happened to your game against Real before the Bernabeu you had 10days rest.

And now your all partying like your already into the Semis! Silently confident more like.

You guys are a bunch of mugs! nearly 20points+ behind Chelsea while were 8points clear in the most hardest league in europe.


Henry will leave and then lets see what your Fickle arses will come back and post.
did you consider it a normal defeat you were simply shame for the italian football just read the italian press when you see the pair of best defensive midfielders looks like amateur players by an 18 old player
you have one shot in 45 minutes and your players looks inexperinced(two red cards in two minutes) it is shame for us we won by twol goals only
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
ThaiGunner said:
They have all been held in high regard because of their transfee fees...not because of their true abilities.

Had Arsenal paid Bevereen for 25 mil for Kolo, you would all be sigining a different tune about him. He came to us on a cheap.

That's what makes the difference.
interesting, though am i right in saying most of wengers signings are the most expensive, and i think reyes was something like almost 20 million but v persie was under 5 million, i believe v persie is much better than reyes and most people will agree
 

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