[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (7 Viewers)

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
Face it...you schmugs....you were beaten by a better team last Tuesday. Series A is a joke.

And had we not had Sol, Cole, Clichy, Lauren out, you would be in ever sorrier state right now.

Count yourself lucky that you were only beaten by 2 goals.

Kolo not in the same class as Cana.... Hahahahahhahahahahahahahha LMAO
 

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Il Re

-- 10 --
Jan 13, 2005
4,031
ThaiGunner said:
Hahahahhaha....a lot of fuckwits seem to be Juve fans.

Jens is a disgrace?

Kolo's not in the same class as Cana and Nesta?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH

ROTFLMAO

Bunch of fuckwits who believe their own Italian media hype. True that both Cana and Nesta are good defenders...but now way are they as good as Kolo right now.

The way we skinned Juve last Tuesday and the way Liverpool stuffed Milan three goals did show what a bunch of fuckwits some people here are. Hahahahahahhaha
italian media hype? the italian media always cuss down the players and are not like the english media who give 9 out of 10 for a reasonably good performance
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
ThaiGunner said:
Hahahahhaha....a lot of fuckwits seem to be Juve fans.

Jens is a disgrace?

Kolo's not in the same class as Cana and Nesta?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH

ROTFLMAO

Bunch of fuckwits who believe their own Italian media hype. True that both Cana and Nesta are good defenders...but now way are they as good as Kolo right now.

The way we skinned Juve last Tuesday and the way Liverpool stuffed Milan three goals did show what a bunch of fuckwits some people here are. Hahahahahahhaha
Who opened the door for this thing??
 

Ekram

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
56
if kolo was not from ivory coast people will consider him the best
i give you an example just look at ferdinand because he is from england the england press make him the best
like also nesta

didn't you see capello praise toure after the match
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
PhRoZeN said:
Chelsea have conceded the least goals in EPL. To be exact 7 goals less than arsenal. Terry is englands best defender, you cant exactly espect kolo to change nationality now can you? Terry has played against much better players and performed in brilliant manner. Yes chelsea have gallas to thank as well as terry but his a true leader and even a goal scorer his overal ability is way higher than kolo.
You know how many injuries Arsenal have had this season in their back four? Eboue and Kolo were also gone for the ACN during our worst spell in terms of injury.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
Chelsea have conceded the least goals in EPL. To be exact 7 goals less than arsenal. Terry is englands best defender, you cant exactly espect kolo to change nationality now can you? Terry has played against much better players and performed in brilliant manner. Yes chelsea have gallas to thank as well as terry but his a true leader and even a goal scorer his overal ability is way higher than kolo.
Terry played against much better players? against Barcelona and that's it maybe?

Terry is a liability and his effectiveness is cut down when he doesn't have Gallas next to him and Makelele in front of him. He struggles against tricky strikers when he is one on one with them and he's prone to rash challenges in the box if the striker is good enough.

Terry is the most over-rated defender in world football and as I said we'll suffer with him playing at the world cup.
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
Ekram said:
if kolo was not from ivory coast people will consider him the best
i give you an example just look at ferdinand because he is from england the england press make him the best
like also nesta

didn't you see capello praise toure after the match
Exactly mate. If Kolo was Italian, they all would be saying he's the best CB of this decade.
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
ThaiGunner said:
Hahahahhaha....a lot of fuckwits seem to be Juve fans.

Jens is a disgrace? (1)

Kolo's not in the same class as Cana and Nesta?
(2)
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH

ROTFLMAO

Bunch of fuckwits who believe their own Italian media hype. True that both Cana and Nesta are good defenders...but now way are they as good as Kolo right now.

The way we skinned Juve last Tuesday and the way Liverpool stuffed Milan three goals did show what a bunch of fuckwits some people here are. Hahahahahahhaha

(1) Yes

(2) No he is not.Toure is simply an amateur defender next to Cannavaro and Nesta.

Your are in the semifinals.This does not mean that your players are all world class
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,640
its funny that those arsenal guys give so much credit to their defens and say terry is crap, while we see that chelsea is leading epl and definetly defens has its part there because chelsea isnt playing always attacking football, while arsenal with this superb defender is on the 5th position. something is not right here.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
robinvanpersie said:
when you say that you, a Juve fan, have watched Toure more than I, an Arsenal fan since 2002. If you have indeed watched him so much, you'd have seen his great season in 2003/2004 which was actually (I think) his first as a center back. Adapting to the CB position usually isn't such an easy transition (as shown by his fuck up vs. Bayern last year) but please name me two mistakes he's made this season (other than the one vs. Liverpool that he fixed himself).

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his 2003/04 wasn't THAT great nor bad, It was kinda medium.....he was moved alongside Sol Campbell as a makeshift centre-half....(Thanks to Wenger). Because since he was playing at that position Arsenal problems were decreasing and going towards the Championship.


I'll name you as you asked me another mistake he did apart from the one Vs L'Pool....

You probably should remmber Chelsea game.....(Robben)
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
4,031
ThaiGunner said:
Exactly mate. If Kolo was Italian, they all would be saying he's the best CB of this decade.
no they wouldn't, shevchenko is ukrainian not exactly a well known footballing nation yet he is considered the best striker in the world because arguably he is, drogba had a high reputation and he is form ivory coast, that doesnt have anything to do with it
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
ThaiGunner said:
Face it...you schmugs....you were beaten by a better team last Tuesday. Series A is a joke.

And had we not had Sol, Cole, Clichy, Lauren out, you would be in ever sorrier state right now.

Count yourself lucky that you were only beaten by 2 goals.

Kolo not in the same class as Cana.... Hahahahahhahahahahahahahha LMAO
Yes we were beaten, by a better team? not exactly we were poor ourselves. As for your team being without Sol, Cole, etc.. well TBH you wouldnt have found yourself in the same position your in, the players like eboue and fabregas have actually brought a fresh approach to your team, something where I doubt arsene would even wanna bother putting the likes of cichy, Sol back on. Kolo has a lot to proove its his first real season as a "name".. cana has done it season in and season out... therefore the class remains different. Can kolo become the best? a longshot but there remains a small possibility.. just like there remains a small posibility that the likes of treviso's viali has.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Stephan said:
its funny that those arsenal guys give so much credit to their defens and say terry is crap, while we see that chelsea is leading epl and definetly defens has its part there because chelsea isnt playing always attacking football, while arsenal with this superb defender is on the 5th position. something is not right here.
I don't blame them at all in the end...

I'm blaming Capello who let them open their mouthes in a Juve forum while Arsenal fans couldn't open their mouths ever before except in front of the dentist...
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
northbank said:
Terry played against much better players? against Barcelona and that's it maybe?

Terry is a liability and his effectiveness is cut down when he doesn't have Gallas next to him and Makelele in front of him. He struggles against tricky strikers when he is one on one with them and he's prone to rash challenges in the box if the striker is good enough.

Terry is the most over-rated defender in world football and as I said we'll suffer with him playing at the world cup.
The same could be said for kolo, he has gilberto or fabregas in front of him and lehman behind him.. jees what a stupid excuse.

Terry like it or not remains the best in EPL and has certainly won more premiership player of the month than kolo.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
ThaiGunner said:
Face it...you schmugs....you were beaten by a better team last Tuesday. Series A is a joke.

And had we not had Sol, Cole, Clichy, Lauren out, you would be in ever sorrier state right now.

Count yourself lucky that you were only beaten by 2 goals.

Kolo not in the same class as Cana.... Hahahahahhahahahahahahahha LMAO

You're officially an Idiot.
 

robinvanpersie

Junior Member
Mar 25, 2006
66
PhRoZeN said:
I never said that.
"Your having a laugh if you seriously think kolo was a brilliant defender before playing Juve. Arsenal were out of the contention of a CL place. Not totally but some places below. Also looking at Pre january till September. Arsenal couldnt even find there feet as a team, yet there wasnt a single player in the team who really played well. Lets face it the african nations cup is what made him become what he is prior to the Juve game. Its always easy leading a team with unknown "stars"."

I left the rest in there to see how you contradict yourself and so you can see how ridiculous your post was.

err that wasnt me pal, it was your arsenal buddy.
Some of your friends were, as well.

wow we are talking about early january here, since then his been formidable and before than his been formidable. Infact even in the CL he has shown his quality against strikers like sidney govou, carew and wiltord as they kept a clean sheet. So how you can pick one of his worst days and go and say his not really good is beyond me. Once again he his more consistent than kolo. Milan has conceded the third least goals in serie A and that can be put down to there attacking mentality, they are very much an attack minded team yet always manage to still concede quite a few goals. I think that does say quite a lot about them. As much as they are rivals to us juve fans, there are certain players who need to be admired and nesta does his job well.
Umm.. calm down there mate, where did I say Nesta was a bad defender? Umm... let me think... nowhere. It was just there to prove that no defender is formidable and that even a Nesta can have a bad day or week or month.


Heck i live in england and also tend to watch match of the day now and again so what i see is what I say.
Not all of my comments are directed at you, I was talking to Lebanese Azzuri. However, MOTD isn't really the best program to judge a player and the Arsenal games aren't always on there.

As for the ACN, please shed another example, thats awful the quality faces in ACN is nowhere as near as EPL, CL, or serie A
I only said that I saw him playing the African Cup of Nations not that the level there is any good (although you can't say Eboue's class wasn't wasn't sticking out there, I mean even the ref couldn't believe he was making those clean tackles). Anyway, as I've said before but not on this forum, the ACN is shit. You, on the other hand said this:

"Lets face it the african nations cup is what made him become what he is prior to the Juve game."

Would you care to explain to me what that comment meant if not that the ACN made Toure the defender he is today (which is a stupid comment, btw)?
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
tassard said:
(1) Yes

(2) No he is not.Toure is simply an amateur defender next to Cannavaro and Nesta.

Your are in the semifinals.This does not mean that your players are all world class
Is your handle tassard or actually 'tard?

True that Jens wasn't in his best form last season....but he's far from being a disgrace this season. Actually I would put him as one of the best keepers in England thsi season. On a number of games, when our young players were still lacking confidence and finding their feet, he did bail us out several times.

Case in the point, the away L'pool game this season.

Tard, you need to watch Arsenal more before you come to a 'tard-ish conclusion like this.

And Toure is better than Cana. He's got every thing, pace, positioning sense, strength, aerial ability, game reading ability...all the good attrengths you want in a great defender.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,640
i think this forum will probably be down after second leg, i dont give much chanses to juve, but i definetly dont want to come here and read arsenal fans bashing after second leg.
 

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