[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (3 Viewers)

robinvanpersie

Junior Member
Mar 25, 2006
66
Azzurri7 said:
We're rating Kolo a bit too much here......they guy can play only 3 or 4 games good. Thats it.
I would like to request you to not speak when you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

"The guy can only play 3 or 4 games good."

First of all, you should either replace good with well or switch games and good, otherwise your sentence doesn't make any sense. Secondly, is your statement true because you've only watched him play 4 games this year? (vs. Real + vs. you + one more?) He's been arguably Arsenal's best player this season and if you knew anything about Arsenal you'd know we were doing horribly without him when he was in the ACN. While I agree that Ekram is either taking the piss or just an idiot, you're making quite a stupid comment yourself.
 

Ekram

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
56
thats enough

did i say that they are all down i just say what they lack
and about kolo played 3 or 4 match only good

kolo is the most consistent defender in europe this season
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
robinvanpersie said:
I would like to request you to not speak when you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

"The guy can only play 3 or 4 games good."

First of all, you should either replace good with well or switch games and good, otherwise your sentence doesn't make any sense. Secondly, is your statement true because you've only watched him play 4 games this year? (vs. Real + vs. you + one more?) He's been arguably Arsenal's best player this season and if you knew anything about Arsenal you'd know we were doing horribly without him when he was in the ACN. While I agree that Ekram is either taking the piss or just an idiot, you're making quite a stupid comment yourself.

Purleeeeeez.

Yes, you ppl(Arsenal fans) are rating Kolo toure REALLY high. True he's been inform only this season. and Believe me I've probably watched him playing more than you since 2002. So I suggest you zip it, Kiddo.

Saying he's Better than Nesta or Canna just like Arsenal Fans are saying is rubbish and pathetic. He may be good and no doubt he's been good this season, but he's no where to (Terry,Nesta,Canna,Puyol).

I'd really like to see him in Delle Alpi Vs Del Piero, though Dp may not be in his full shape, but he'd probably show you Kolo's shape and Value.

Jogg on.
 

Il Re

-- 10 --
Jan 13, 2005
4,031
robinvanpersie said:
I would like to request you to not speak when you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

"The guy can only play 3 or 4 games good."

First of all, you should either replace good with well or switch games and good, otherwise your sentence doesn't make any sense. Secondly, is your statement true because you've only watched him play 4 games this year? (vs. Real + vs. you + one more?) He's been arguably Arsenal's best player this season and if you knew anything about Arsenal you'd know we were doing horribly without him when he was in the ACN. While I agree that Ekram is either taking the piss or just an idiot, you're making quite a stupid comment yourself.
this is true, arsenal have struggled without him, he is imo a key member of the team now, and your best centre back (sol is no longer the key man in defence imo) (and btw my brother is an arsenal fan and i watched almost all of their games or highlights so i do know alot aoubt your club)
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
Ekram said:
i respect maldini so much but he will find it hard if he faces pacey striker like henry and nesta is a crap he past his best john terry like maldini slow and puyol can'y head the ball
and rember that kolo is 25

So this Toure is the best defender in the world?Plz man let other to speak for defenders.An -one year defender- is nothing to me.This hyperrated Toure can be owned any day against Eto or Shevchenko.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
PhRoZeN said:
Your having a laugh if you seriously think kolo was a brilliant defender before playing Juve. Arsenal were out of the contention of a CL place. Not totally but some places below. Also looking at Pre january till September. Arsenal couldnt even find there feet as a team, yet there wasnt a single player in the team who really played well. Lets face it the african nations cup is what made him become what he is prior to the Juve game. Its always easy leading a team with unknown "stars".
Couldn't be more wrong. Kolo and Lehman are looking to be in the premiership team of the year and that's in spite of Arsenal's poor start to the season. Those two have been top-class all year.

With regards to the ACN, I think that you are talking about Eboue coming back from there as a different player.

Just for the record; Terry is a poor player in my opinion and I hope he doesn't start the world cup for England.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
robinvanpersie said:
The fact that you think a defender can become world class overnight is ridiculous in itself.
I never said that.


robinvanpersie said:
I don't see how you can compare Toure who's playing with a young, inexperienced, make-shift defence with players such as Nesta and Cannavaro
err that wasnt me pal, it was your arsenal buddy.

robinvanpersie said:
I didn't see Nesta keeping Milan together this year when teams like Parma (I think) put 3 goals past them.
wow we are talking about early january here, since then his been formidable and before than his been formidable. Infact even in the CL he has shown his quality against strikers like sidney govou, carew and wiltord as they kept a clean sheet. So how you can pick one of his worst days and go and say his not really good is beyond me. Once again he his more consistent than kolo. Milan has conceded the third least goals in serie A and that can be put down to there attacking mentality, they are very much an attack minded team yet always manage to still concede quite a few goals. I think that does say quite a lot about them. As much as they are rivals to us juve fans, there are certain players who need to be admired and nesta does his job well.

robinvanpersie said:
Also, I'd say that an Arsenal fan, biased as one may be, is in a much better position to judge Kolo Toure as a defender than you are seeing how we watch him every game (I watched every Ivory Coast game bar one in the ACN as well).
Heck i live in england and also tend to watch match of the day now and again so what i see is what I say. As for the ACN, please shed another example, thats awful the quality faces in ACN is nowhere as near as EPL, CL, or serie A
 

tassard

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2004
6,842
Ekram said:
thats enough

did i say that they are all down i just say what they lack
and about kolo played 3 or 4 match only good

kolo is the most consistent defender in europe this season


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Cannavaro,Terry and Puyol together have less than 5 bad games this season
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
northbank said:
Couldn't be more wrong. Kolo and Lehman are looking to be in the premiership team of the year and that's in spite of Arsenal's poor start to the season. Those two have been top-class all year.

With regards to the ACN, I think that you are talking about Eboue coming back from there as a different player.

Just for the record; Terry is a poor player in my opinion and I hope he doesn't start the world cup for England.
Believe me, if you watched Italy - Germany match, you won't say that Lehmann should play in your team at all...

He is a disgrace...

His luck until now was because he didn't face correct strikers... He met only Ibra, Raul, Robinho, Not-in-form Trezeguet...

And those can't represent the best threateners to any goal...
 

Ekram

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
56
i expect you to say that but if we are not going to play you you may have changed your reply

waiting for your dp to face kolo
 

robinvanpersie

Junior Member
Mar 25, 2006
66
Azzurri7 said:
Purleeeeeez.

Yes, you ppl(Arsenal fans) are rating Kolo toure REALLY high. True he's been inform only this season. and Believe me I've probably watched him playing more than you since 2002. So I suggest you zip it, Kiddo.

Saying he's Better than Nesta or Canna just like Arsenal Fans are saying is rubbish and pathetic. He may be good and no doubt he's been good this season, but he's no where to (Terry,Nesta,Canna,Puyol).

I'd really like to see him in Delle Alpi Vs Del Piero, though Dp may not be in his full shape, but he'd probably show you Kolo's shape and Value.

Jogg on.
Since I was fairly respectful to you and I believe I was relatively objective, I believe you should try to be the same. Comments such as "Jogg on." are stupid and add nothing of importance to your post, if it lacked anything, it wasn't that comment. Also, jog is spelled as I spelled it. Another name which I'd appreciate you not calling me is "Kiddo" as it is condescending and I don't believe you have any reason to condescend over me.

If you reread my post, you will see that nowhere did I imply that he is better than Nesta or Cannavaro. And excuse me when I say,

Purrrrrleeeeezzz

when you say that you, a Juve fan, have watched Toure more than I, an Arsenal fan since 2002. If you have indeed watched him so much, you'd have seen his great season in 2003/2004 which was actually (I think) his first as a center back. Adapting to the CB position usually isn't such an easy transition (as shown by his fuck up vs. Bayern last year) but please name me two mistakes he's made this season (other than the one vs. Liverpool that he fixed himself).

Now you changed your mind, before he's only been good for 3-4 games this season and now suddenly he's been in form this whole season? Avoiding your obvious contradicting of yourself, if a player is in form for a season, can you really say he's in great form and not just he's upped his ability and now this is his normal ability? Young defenders make these sort of defence as do players who are new to the position. Even your great Thuram made plenty of mistakes at the beginning of his career at Monaco as is our Senderos who I believe will be a world class defender in due time. Cannavaro also wasn't really all that great at Inter at some point, does that mean that since he had a bad season or was in a bad patch that his great playing now is just because he's in form. No, you and I both know that's ridiculous, as is your comment, well actually, all of your comments are regarding Toure.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Ekram said:
i expect you to say that but if we are not going to play you you may have changed your reply

waiting for your dp to face kolo

Thats good you mentioned that......hopefully he'll be ready...
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,640
Ekram said:
i respect maldini so much but he will find it hard if he faces pacey striker like henry and nesta is a crap he past his best john terry like maldini slow and puyol can'y head the ball
and rember that kolo is 25
what is this now, seriously, april fool was yesterday. nesta crap? why? explaine why his crap? terry slow? how his slow? his even fast going forward if needed, and also, every defender has individual skills, one is good with head, like terry, other is good with tackles like nesta.
 

ThaiGunner

Junior Member
Apr 2, 2006
80
Hahahahhaha....a lot of fuckwits seem to be Juve fans.

Jens is a disgrace?

Kolo's not in the same class as Cana and Nesta?

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHH

ROTFLMAO

Bunch of fuckwits who believe their own Italian media hype. True that both Cana and Nesta are good defenders...but now way are they as good as Kolo right now.

The way we skinned Juve last Tuesday and the way Liverpool stuffed Milan three goals did show what a bunch of fuckwits some people here are. Hahahahahahhaha
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,930
northbank said:
Just for the record; Terry is a poor player in my opinion and I hope he doesn't start the world cup for England.
Chelsea have conceded the least goals in EPL. To be exact 7 goals less than arsenal. Terry is englands best defender, you cant exactly espect kolo to change nationality now can you? Terry has played against much better players and performed in brilliant manner. Yes chelsea have gallas to thank as well as terry but his a true leader and even a goal scorer his overal ability is way higher than kolo.
 

northbank

Junior Member
Mar 22, 2006
232
ReBeL said:
Believe me, if you watched Italy - Germany match, you won't say that Lehmann should play in your team at all...

He is a disgrace...

His luck until now was because he didn't face correct strikers... He met only Ibra, Raul, Robinho, Not-in-form Trezeguet...

And those can't represent the best threateners to any goal...
No, I'm rating lehman on his season as a whole; not Champions league and one friendly against Italy.
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
Stephan said:
what is this now, seriously, april fool was yesterday. nesta crap? why? explaine why his crap? terry slow? how his slow? his even fast going forward if needed, and also, every defender has individual skills, one is good with head, like terry, other is good with tackles like nesta.
Stephan,

You will see that no one player who plays for another club else than ArseNal can play good football...

Those kids will give you their claimed evidences soon...
 

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