[CL] Juventus vs Arsenal (6 Viewers)

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
juventino19 said:
everyone is already throwin this game away, and if Juve wins all your gonna see is WOOOOOOOO Forza Juve, We're the best! Remember doubters what your all saying right now, cuz if in the end we do win, you should not be celebrating.
Word! Thats my point! We have to be Juve fans in the goods and in the bads!
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
CalcioJuventus said:
Hi guys ... watching the first leg was heart wrenching for me .. i am now even more worried cuz i feel juve will get a further lesson from Arsenal. I wish Capello played more like Wegner but I think getting rid of Capello could be a stupid Real Madrid type decsion (ie Del Bosque). Sure he is not an attacking coach but not many are now and days and you need a solid defense to win title and trophys anyway. I think it had more to do with our players. Viera was not great, Ibra was frustrating and needs to shoot more. If we had Nedved and DP, I think we would have got a goal or two because Ibra is always off trying to create when we needed to be come direct, getting into the box. I really feel it is over unless we score right away in Turin which we probabl wont judging by current Arsenal defense.

Welcom to the forums! Is the best place for juventinis but u came in the worst moment possible.


Getting rid of Capello is the best we can do. At least Del bosque had some idea of what his team was doing, and was not his fault to lose against us anyways, as both were good teams and we had what needed to counter them.

This is different, we faced a team like arsenal, who had the weapons to truly punish us, and we had nothing to even poke them, we didnt had our best players (nedved,dp) and we didnt had the good form... all of this is to blame Capello.

Dp´s injury, the lack of stamina from our players, even the behaviour of some of our red carded guys and the cherry on the cake....Zlatan´s poor form.... all of this have to do with Cap.

Not to mention all the players that are out of position...


Definitely Capello needs to go,, and i am even willing to lose the scudetto, which in fact means nothing cuz WE DONT DESERVE IT.
 

Mozart

F*ck the media
Feb 3, 2006
520
i never had the chance to respond(due to the site being closed)...

what can i say after the embrassing performance...i mean a lot of us expected
this...but not in this fashion way...Buffon is a legand..without him..it woulld
have been 5-0....am not gonna write an essay on blaming the loss...but
i swear...if i see capello playing the 4-4-2 formation against arseanl..i will
switch the T.V off(obvisuly i wont..:disagree: )...
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Juve_25 said:
Word! Thats my point! We have to be Juve fans in the goods and in the bads!

Mam, we have to be realist and accept that appart of the lost... we played like crap.

I wanna win more than anyone.... but we clearly dont deserve that.

Maybe u cant see it,, but this juventus just totally fucked up. thanks to capello because he had the players to do something better,.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
We are juve fans.. We just hate it when some players play without heart. Or when the coach puts a formation that won't get us anywhere.
Being logical, the way Capello plays does not see us penetrating a tachtically arranged Arsenal with 3 goals. Especially if our best forward ain't playing.
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
Hydde said:
Mam, we have to be realist and accept that appart of the lost... we played like crap.

I wanna win more than anyone.... but we clearly dont deserve that.

Maybe u cant see it,, but this juventus just totally fucked up. thanks to capello because he had the players to do something better,.
I know and I accept we played like crap, and I accept it was because of Capello and the team. But now is when juve need us more. Lets not just forget about how much we love Juve in this bad moments, lets be positives and lets hope that Capello reads this thread :D

But believe me I understand your point
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
It's beyond us to keep a clean sheet against Arsenal, Delle Alpi or otherwise. For that reason I see us getting eliminated soundly, one goal is all they need and its done.
 
Mar 30, 2006
3,747
Hydde said:
Welcom to the forums! Is the best place for juventinis but u came in the worst moment possible.


Getting rid of Capello is the best we can do. At least Del bosque had some idea of what his team was doing, and was not his fault to lose against us anyways, as both were good teams and we had what needed to counter them.

This is different, we faced a team like arsenal, who had the weapons to truly punish us, and we had nothing to even poke them, we didnt had our best players (nedved,dp) and we didnt had the good form... all of this is to blame Capello.

Dp´s injury, the lack of stamina from our players, even the behaviour of some of our red carded guys and the cherry on the cake....Zlatan´s poor form.... all of this have to do with Cap.

Not to mention all the players that are out of position...


Definitely Capello needs to go,, and i am even willing to lose the scudetto, which in fact means nothing cuz WE DONT DESERVE IT.
than ks for the welcome ... i read this forum ofter and was a member of others but never got around to registering.

I still don't agree with the Cap thing .. i think some new players are needed .. Nedved and DP are great and still amazing (my favs) but are getting old and with age comes injury. We don't have many other players (especially wingers) who are fast and can beat players and whip in crosses. Like arsenal have tonnes of players who can beat their man and constanly run forward with smart movements (Henry, Helb, Reyes, Ljundberg, Pires) ..

I think if we could buy a player such as Joaquin who is young and a livewire we could do much better in attack and when counter attacking. He would give us a dimension it seems only zambrotta has now and days. That would help greatly in situations where we go down and need otulets. We can't play our normal game of frustrating and taking advantage of mistakes when we go a goal down and we need to fix this over the summer. If i could get a player Joaquin would certainly be one
 

Mark

The Informer
Administrator
Dec 19, 2003
97,622
Out of nowhere I'm starting to think that we can do it!!!

I BELIEVE!!!

dammit!!! Why is this happening? My head tells me to shut the f-up, Juve's done, it's over but my heart says that WE CAN DO IT!!!

Do miracles really happen? Can Juve turn this thing around?

I don't want to be dissapointed once more this Wednesday. WHY OH WHY? :cry:
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Nedved expects impossible mission
Wednesday 29 March, 2006
Pavel Nedved has conceded that Juventus’ chances of overturning Arsenal’s 2-0 first leg lead have been compromised by suspensions.

The Czech ace will return to the starting line-up for next week’s Champions League second leg tie, but the Bianconeri will be shy of three first team regulars.

Patrick Vieira is out after picking up a yellow card at Highbury last night, while Jonathan Zebina and Mauro Camoranesi will watch from the stands after their ludicrous dismissals.

“If we were at full strength for the return game then we might have a chance, but now it will be extremely hard,” the midfielder told a Czech television station.

“To be honest, I am not looking forward to the match given the fact that we will have so many players missing.

“It will be very difficult to make something of it, in fact, maybe it is already over for us this year.”

Juventus, last night, looked a distant relative from the outfit which have dominated the Serie A championship and who are currently eight points clear of nearest rivals Milan.

“We played quite well at the beginning, but everything went wrong after we conceded the first goal,” added the former Golden Ball winner.

“We showed nothing, we were harmless in almost every attack. The result is a very heavy one for us.”

Juventus resumed training on Wednesday afternoon in which boss Fabio Capello spent around 20 minutes talking to the squad about last night’s encounter.
 
Mar 30, 2006
3,747
mark77 said:
Out of nowhere I'm starting to think that we can do it!!!

I BELIEVE!!!

dammit!!! Why is this happening? My head tells me to shut the f-up, Juve's done, it's over but my heart says that WE CAN DO IT!!!

Do miracles really happen? Can Juve turn this thing around?

I don't want to be dissapointed once more this Wednesday. WHY OH WHY? :cry:

it does seem like a big ask and probably eont happen but now Arsenal are favorites. We just need to play and score. Anything can happen in 90 min especially against a Arsenal who are not a good team away from home. We can do it and we might as well believe or there is no point to even talk about it or watch it. Juventus always have a chance we just have to hope we take it this time instead of letting it slip again
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
mark77 said:
Out of nowhere I'm starting to think that we can do it!!!

I BELIEVE!!!

dammit!!! Why is this happening? My head tells me to shut the f-up but my heart says that WE CAN DO IT!!!

Do miracles really happen? Can Juve turn this thing around?

I don't want to be dissapointed once more this Wednesday. WHY OH WHY? :cry:
hey man, I feel your pain, but lets not forget, Lippi is not in charge, but one Fabio CapeLOL, who wouldnt change tactics or formations, even if someone threatened to kill his family !!!

we didnt have 1 shot on net the entire day against Arsenal...what makes you think we can go out there and score 3 ???

I get a kick out of the fact that some ppl here, who shall remain nameless, say "well Capello won us a scudetto in his first season"


ppl forget that Lippi had won 2 scudetto's in his last 3 years as coach, and was really hard done by the defense falling apart in the 2003-04 season. Its not as if CapeLOL came in here and made any drastic changes...we were still a top team with or without him
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
Azzurri7 said:
Nedved expects impossible mission
Wednesday 29 March, 2006
Pavel Nedved has conceded that Juventus’ chances of overturning Arsenal’s 2-0 first leg lead have been compromised by suspensions.

The Czech ace will return to the starting line-up for next week’s Champions League second leg tie, but the Bianconeri will be shy of three first team regulars.

Patrick Vieira is out after picking up a yellow card at Highbury last night, while Jonathan Zebina and Mauro Camoranesi will watch from the stands after their ludicrous dismissals.

“If we were at full strength for the return game then we might have a chance, but now it will be extremely hard,” the midfielder told a Czech television station.

“To be honest, I am not looking forward to the match given the fact that we will have so many players missing.

“It will be very difficult to make something of it, in fact, maybe it is already over for us this year.”

Juventus, last night, looked a distant relative from the outfit which have dominated the Serie A championship and who are currently eight points clear of nearest rivals Milan.

“We played quite well at the beginning, but everything went wrong after we conceded the first goal,” added the former Golden Ball winner.

“We showed nothing, we were harmless in almost every attack. The result is a very heavy one for us.”

Juventus resumed training on Wednesday afternoon in which boss Fabio Capello spent around 20 minutes talking to the squad about last night’s encounter.
This show us how is the morale of the team. This makes me feel sad :(

Anyway, thanks rab
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
CalcioJuventus said:
than ks for the welcome ... i read this forum ofter and was a member of others but never got around to registering.

I still don't agree with the Cap thing .. i think some new players are needed .. Nedved and DP are great and still amazing (my favs) but are getting old and with age comes injury. We don't have many other players (especially wingers) who are fast and can beat players and whip in crosses. Like arsenal have tonnes of players who can beat their man and constanly run forward with smart movements (Henry, Helb, Reyes, Ljundberg, Pires) ..

I think if we could buy a player such as Joaquin who is young and a livewire we could do much better in attack and when counter attacking. He would give us a dimension it seems only zambrotta has now and days. That would help greatly in situations where we go down and need otulets. We can't play our normal game of frustrating and taking advantage of mistakes when we go a goal down and we need to fix this over the summer. If i could get a player Joaquin would certainly be one

ur welcome...


about Dp´s injury.... in the game before roma... DP semmed unconfort with one of his legs. He trained all week with an specialist because of that problem.
Capello, knowing this, fields DP from the first minute against Roma.
Taking in consideration that Del piero is, (or was) our most in form striker in the last couple of months, why Capello risked him in that game, knowing that we had an 10 point lead and knowing that we were facing arsenal on tuesday.

Why Capello fielded our best players in that game? At least he could give em some minutes in the end, but why to play them and take the best of them on weekend?. IN the arsenal game, fatigue was a decisive factor in the last 30 mins.

This are just examples of what capello can do in a week....
He definitely, for me, is as crazy as a donkey.
 

Desmond

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2002
8,938
mark77 said:
Out of nowhere I'm starting to think that we can do it!!!

I BELIEVE!!!

dammit!!! Why is this happening? My head tells me to shut the f-up, Juve's done, it's over but my heart says that WE CAN DO IT!!!

Do miracles really happen? Can Juve turn this thing around?

I don't want to be dissapointed once more this Wednesday. WHY OH WHY? :cry:
Don't make get my hopes up, Mark. Pride always comes before a fall; for us we're already amongst the fallen, as pessimistic as that may sound.

It is done. :sob:
 

Fabregas23

Junior Member
Mar 19, 2006
71
Everything I said before the game was proved correct. Vieira and Emerson will just sit there and contain. Our midfielders could attack because there was not threat from you central midfielders. You could we were so confident before the game. Arsenal, at this moment, are at a different level to Juve.

Next week should be easy if Trezeguet does not score a lucky goal from two yards or Del Piero does not get a free-kick.
 
Mar 30, 2006
3,747
Hydde said:
ur welcome...


about Dp´s injury.... in the game before roma... DP semmed unconfort with one of his legs. He trained all week with an specialist because of that problem.
Capello, knowing this, fields DP from the first minute against Roma.
Taking in consideration that Del piero is, (or was) our most in form striker in the last couple of months, why Capello risked him in that game, knowing that we had an 10 point lead and knowing that we were facing arsenal on tuesday.

Why Capello fielded our best players in that game? At least he could give em some minutes in the end, but why to play them and take the best of them on weekend?. IN the arsenal game, fatigue was a decisive factor in the last 30 mins.

This are just examples of what capello can do in a week....
He definitely, for me, is as crazy as a donkey.

Everyone makes mistakes and maby he was planning on Ibra getting rest for Arsenal hoping he would have a big game... If you look at teams that beat arsenal big forwards normally do well against them in terms of play and knocking down balls. Even though i worship DP as a god i thought it would make sense playing ibra. The problem was no one was whipping balls in or acting like a playmaker for Ibra and Trez. You can't just give Ibra the ball and expcect him to score or make a play when he is surrounded with no help. I was honestly hoping DP would play nedved's position like he did last year when Nedved was out in a 433 .. that way he would take on players and playmake with ibra in the box supporting trez and taking on senderos like drogba did. That is how u beat them. But Ibra was not the problem the fact we could not work our way up the field and beat our man was the problem.. without DP and Nedved there was no service aside from Zambrotta. Camo is great but too slow and sometimes does to technical things when a simple one two or pass would do the trick.
 

NYJuve

Junior Member
Mar 15, 2006
72
Fabregas23 said:
Everything Next week should be easy if Trezeguet does not score a lucky goal from two yards or Del Piero does not get a free-kick.
Maybe, but please consider that you had the game of your life and we had one of the shittiest of our history.
Things could change fast.
But I hope you guys come down overconfident.
 

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