no this is not hard luck, hard luck would have been, if we would have lost the game by one goal scored in the 89 minute. we where outplayed in england and didnt had responce at turin.
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I think half that team that started the nighyt needs rid of, Emerson is far too slow now and cant keep up the pace anymore. we need a right winger i.e. Joaquin. we definetly need a playmaker, if not Riquleme then Aimar or Rosicky or Snejider
Nedved shouldnt have went to such low levels and kicked out in anger, he should have battled to the end, thats what I mean
Nedved shouldnt have went to such low levels and kicked out in anger, he should have battled to the end, thats what I mean
the buffon joke never gets old for me. ever.
Its strange that in the last couple of weeks I´ve started having doubts in a team I never had doubts in this season. We only just scraped through Werder and now Arsenal take the game to us and we can´t respond. There is just extra needed. We need to be more than solid. We´re one of Europe´s giants and we should play that way. Not like we´re some bunch of amateurs. Our tactics are maybe week but we just don´t have the players to play much differently. We need flair and Capello needs to give Zlatan more freedom. What is up with all the long balls aimed for his head? He may be tall but he has so much better elements he should try to exploit in his playstyle which I just don´t think he realizes or aknowledges. He can only see another Van Basten who he clearly isn´t.
But there´s also some kind of anti-atmosphere in Turin. I mean when you´re team is fighting to stay in a competition like the CL, you just don´t jeer at them if they make one bad touch or pass. I think we all can see that confidence has been lacking for the last month or so and anything constructive even from the fans can make things so much easier. This is the difference between Italian fans and pretty much all other fans I at least know.
Lets put it like this. Juve play every home game in Serie A in front of what? 20k spectators? I mean, how can that be possible for the third rank club in the world in terms of what their fan base has been calculated as. Then you have a game like this where tension is high and the team needs support, we STILL can´t freakin fill it! And still there´s nothing from the fans but we want this we want that! Sure it´s not fair against the supporter of such a great club like Juve to show such a horrrendous dislpay in a span of 180 minutes and even more but still I would have thought Arsenal would have sung Vieira ohoh....Vieira ohohohoh in next weeks game in the league. In my opinion this is an anti atmosphere. Juve should not have that, we´re too great to let that happen.
Still people we have to look at the positive signs. We may have wrapped up the Scudetto but now there is a phase where the coach (which I don´t think is leaving) needs to evaluate the situation. Which players are gonna appear in the summer camp for next season. The players are gonna have to show the coach why he should keep them at the club. In my opinion Mutu is leaving 80%. I don´t think the forwards should leave. I still want to give Zlatan some time to progress further at this club, he needs to recover his confidence back. A midfielder like Sneijder would be great cause he has the intelligence, the passes and overall tactical awareness to play at a club of juve´s level.
Emerson will be sold. Period. Diarra in would be nice. Faster wingers would be nice, and some come to mind such as for example Vicente, Cristiano Ronaldo, Joaquin and even many more I may not mention but have better ball control and speed than our present wingers.
Last but not least we need a better fullback alongside Zambrotta. Someone more attacking minded than Zambro with the pass and crosses of Serginho or Cafu. But overall I´m just looking for a team that knows eaxh other better.
We sometimes (VERY OFTEN) play like we´re a lot of professionals picked together to play one match together and have no awareness of how the other moves etc etc. You will not see this with sides like Arsenal, Milan, Barca and many other great European teams. We seem to muscle out our competitors, beating them with taking advantage of their misfiring or misfits. This too is not acceptible for a team like Juventus.
AAAAhhhhhhh....I could pick some many more things which might go better but remember all, we have been playing good football at times, though I feel we could do so much better than fighting through every game wether in the league or CL like some boxers cause this sport has so much more to offer.
Good night and good luck!!
P.S. I won´t edit so bear with me if there are any flaws or errors in the text.
But there´s also some kind of anti-atmosphere in Turin. I mean when you´re team is fighting to stay in a competition like the CL, you just don´t jeer at them if they make one bad touch or pass. I think we all can see that confidence has been lacking for the last month or so and anything constructive even from the fans can make things so much easier. This is the difference between Italian fans and pretty much all other fans I at least know.
Lets put it like this. Juve play every home game in Serie A in front of what? 20k spectators? I mean, how can that be possible for the third rank club in the world in terms of what their fan base has been calculated as. Then you have a game like this where tension is high and the team needs support, we STILL can´t freakin fill it! And still there´s nothing from the fans but we want this we want that! Sure it´s not fair against the supporter of such a great club like Juve to show such a horrrendous dislpay in a span of 180 minutes and even more but still I would have thought Arsenal would have sung Vieira ohoh....Vieira ohohohoh in next weeks game in the league. In my opinion this is an anti atmosphere. Juve should not have that, we´re too great to let that happen.
Still people we have to look at the positive signs. We may have wrapped up the Scudetto but now there is a phase where the coach (which I don´t think is leaving) needs to evaluate the situation. Which players are gonna appear in the summer camp for next season. The players are gonna have to show the coach why he should keep them at the club. In my opinion Mutu is leaving 80%. I don´t think the forwards should leave. I still want to give Zlatan some time to progress further at this club, he needs to recover his confidence back. A midfielder like Sneijder would be great cause he has the intelligence, the passes and overall tactical awareness to play at a club of juve´s level.
Emerson will be sold. Period. Diarra in would be nice. Faster wingers would be nice, and some come to mind such as for example Vicente, Cristiano Ronaldo, Joaquin and even many more I may not mention but have better ball control and speed than our present wingers.
Last but not least we need a better fullback alongside Zambrotta. Someone more attacking minded than Zambro with the pass and crosses of Serginho or Cafu. But overall I´m just looking for a team that knows eaxh other better.
We sometimes (VERY OFTEN) play like we´re a lot of professionals picked together to play one match together and have no awareness of how the other moves etc etc. You will not see this with sides like Arsenal, Milan, Barca and many other great European teams. We seem to muscle out our competitors, beating them with taking advantage of their misfiring or misfits. This too is not acceptible for a team like Juventus.
AAAAhhhhhhh....I could pick some many more things which might go better but remember all, we have been playing good football at times, though I feel we could do so much better than fighting through every game wether in the league or CL like some boxers cause this sport has so much more to offer.
Good night and good luck!!
P.S. I won´t edit so bear with me if there are any flaws or errors in the text.
thanks for the clarification Greg !!:thumbs:
it really hurts right now - not just that were out of Europe, but the way we went out.
I think we are all on the same page now- something needs to be done as soon as possible, because if we go proceed with CapeLOL and company, we can expect the same thing to happen...again and again
He needs to go to Real, the England NT or somewhere else, and get as far away from Torino as possible
I havent really thought about who should replace him, but for a start, I have been thinking about who should replace Zlatan.....
Zlatan and Zalayeta plus 3 million dollars to Fiorentina for LUCA TONI
I think thats a bargain
it really hurts right now - not just that were out of Europe, but the way we went out.
I think we are all on the same page now- something needs to be done as soon as possible, because if we go proceed with CapeLOL and company, we can expect the same thing to happen...again and again
He needs to go to Real, the England NT or somewhere else, and get as far away from Torino as possible
I havent really thought about who should replace him, but for a start, I have been thinking about who should replace Zlatan.....
Zlatan and Zalayeta plus 3 million dollars to Fiorentina for LUCA TONI
I think thats a bargain
Its great I admit it! hahahawho said that would solve our problems ??
If you could READ, I said for a START, we should replace Zlatan with Luca Toni
our other moves should include firing Crapello and a revamp of the midfield
start reading some of my other posts before you throw shit my way
I am a realist, and you cannot comprehend what you read
If you could READ, I said for a START, we should replace Zlatan with Luca Toni
our other moves should include firing Crapello and a revamp of the midfield
start reading some of my other posts before you throw shit my way
I am a realist, and you cannot comprehend what you read
The hardest luck of all would have been Juve actually making a match out of it and going out by only a goal, etc. Then everyone in the Juve front office could have sat on their asses and blamed the loss on the weather, the day's lottery numbers, the color of Berlusconi's tie that day, etc.
Arsenal did us a favor. They held up a mirror and said, "You are one ugly mothaf^%#$. Brush your teeth once in a while, alright?!" And that should keep the deaf, dumb, and blind in Torino from doing this:
each and everytime we go down for the count and say we are pleased with the result.
Arsenal did us a favor. They held up a mirror and said, "You are one ugly mothaf^%#$. Brush your teeth once in a while, alright?!" And that should keep the deaf, dumb, and blind in Torino from doing this:
each and everytime we go down for the count and say we are pleased with the result.