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Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
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When we win, I want there to be no doubt that it's because we were the best. Not through some underhanded bitch tactics.
Madrid won because they were the best. They beat the French champs, Italian champs, and German champs en route to the final, where they dispatched of a pesky and resilient Liverpool team. Beating moneybags, and traditionally elite teams to win the title warrants respect.

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Dayum :tuttosport:

That's one of them you won't know, what's she got down there. This uncertainity gives you an extra thrill, even tho you actually don't care, because it'll be hot anyway.
She looks like a platypus :p
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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Madrid won because they were the best. They beat the French champs, Italian champs, and German champs en route to the final, where they dispatched of a pesky and resilient Liverpool team. Beating moneybags, and traditionally elite teams to win the title warrants respect.
Not when you get constant ref assistance in crucial moments.

Fuck Real anyway, close the thread already...
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
11,400
Is it safe to say Marcelo surpassed R.Carlos?
And generally, Zidane's Real surpassed Del Bosque's?
For Madrid yeah (about Marcelo) but for Brazil this generation is shameful.

About Zizou: Obviously the greatest personality in their entire history. What he achieved as a player, assistant coach and then coach is unbelievable.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,829
Like us in Serie A :shifty:

You guys are behaving like sore losers here , like Inter fans.
No, we're not.
Unlike league tournaments, ref mistakes are not "balanced out" throughout the season ffs, a ref mistake in CL play-off means you're pretty much done with the season and see you again next March where we will fuck you up again once you've forgotten last year's pain.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
32,418
No, we're not.
Unlike league tournaments, ref mistakes are not "balanced out" throughout the season ffs, a ref mistake in CL play-off means you're pretty much done with the season.
And we got it in a crucial game this season.

We lost to the same team that you guys are moaning about, 3-0 at HOME ffs. A 3-0 thrashing at home has never happened to us since the move to the new stadium. How do you justify that ? Refs at fault again ?

They won because they have been by far the best team in this comp. If Bayern had been more clinical or had we performed better in the first leg, things would've been different. Over the two legs, they performed better than both Bayern and Juve and PSG ofcourse.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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And we got it in a crucial game this season.

We lost to the same team that you guys are moaning about, 3-0 at HOME ffs. A 3-0 thrashing at home has never happened to us since the move to the new stadium. How do you justify that ? Refs at fault again ?

They won because they have been by far the best team in this comp. If Bayern had been more clinical or had we performed better in the first leg, things would've been different. Over the two legs, they performed better than both Bayern and Juve and PSG ofcourse.
That's the thing about this Real, there are always doubts about their superiority. There were hardly any with Pep's Barca (except vs Chelsea), Ancelotti's Milan or Jupp's Bayern. Ancelotti's CL win in 2014 was legit too, no one complained then.

That's what bugs everyone about Zidane's Real, they just pull through somehow, there is always some ref-related controversy and ref mistakes are ALWAYS in their favor.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
32,418
That's the thing about this Real, there are always doubts about their superiority. There were hardly any with Pep's Barca, Ancelotti's Milan or Jupp's Bayern.

That's what bugs everyone about Zidane's Real. Ancelotti's CL win in 2014 was legit, no one complained then.
This same pettiness and jealousy about them reminds me of how people are so petty about us when we keep winning, so for me, its totally understandable sitting in their situation and i am not going to act like a hypocrite about this.

The thing about Zidane's Real is they just know how to win this competition. When to strike despite not playing well enough , how to save energy when you need to, how to approach tense , pressure situations. They've totally mastered it. This is Juventus' blueprint in Serie A. We dont play well enough, yet we win. Period. Fuck the likeable losers.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,829
This same pettiness and jealousy about them reminds me of how people are so petty about us when we keep winning, so for me, its totally understandable sitting in their situation and i am not going to act like a hypocrite about this.

The thing about Zidane's Real is they just know how to win this competition. When to strike despite not playing well enough , how to save energy when you need to, how to approach tense , pressure situations. They've totally mastered it. This is Juventus' blueprint in Serie A. We dont play well enough, yet we win. Period. Fuck the likeable losers.
You still don't get it do you? There is a HUGE difference between winning a league tournament vs winning a cup tournament. So no, it's not the same as us in Serie A.

PS and Serie A has VAR now ffs.
PPS they cheated us out of a CL title in 1998, how can anyone defend these crooks?
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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You still don't get it do you? There is a HUGE difference between winning a league tournament vs winning a cup tournament. So no, it's not the same as us in Serie A.

PS and Serie A has VAR now ffs.
Stop. If your team depends on a ref decision to win you games, then you dont deserve to qualify. Again you are the one not getting it. Real Madrid over the course of 180 minutes performed better than all of Bayern, Juve and PSG so they deserved to go through.

Serie A has VAR now yet we still got a favourable decision in a crucial game of the season but carry on with your double standards.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,829
Stop. If your team depends on a ref decision to win you games, then you dont deserve to qualify. Again you are the one not getting it. Real Madrid over the course of 180 minutes performed better than all of Bayern, Juve and PSG so they deserved to go through.

Serie A has VAR now yet we still got a favourable decision in a crucial game of the season but carry on with your double standards.
Yes, but so did Napoli at times. See, that's the difference... in a league tournament your opponent gets favors too, everyone does... it evens out, not in a Cup competition tho, there is no time to even out ref mistakes there.
 

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Yes, but so did Napoli at times. See, that's the difference... in a league tournament your opponent gets favors too, everyone does... it evens out, not in a Cup competition tho, there is no time to even out ref mistakes there.
And i dint see any blatant ref mistakes given in the favour of Real Madrid. I dont think they blatantly robbed any team. They played well enough, better than every team they faced to go through and win it. The penalty on Benatia was a legit peno. The only discussion was if we would've got that peno if Madrid were at the receiving end of it. Thats about it. If we win a CL, even we will get the 50-50 benefit of the doubt from the refs as well. Its just the way refereeing in the game has panned out. But CL does need VAR , no doubt about it.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
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And i dint see any blatant ref mistakes given in the favour of Real Madrid. I dont think they blatantly robbed any team. The penalty on Benatia was a legit peno. The only discussion was if we would've got that peno if Madrid were at the receiving end of it. Thats about it. If we win a CL, even we will get the 50-50 benefit of the doubt from the refs as well. Its just the way refereeing in the game has panned out. But CL does need VAR , no doubt about it.
Marcelo handball was blatant as fuck bro. You gotta understand the psychological aspect this kinda incidents have on opposition too, it all builds up. Imagine how Pool players felt when an opponent brakes your best player's shoulder and gets away with it, your opponents left-back stops the ball with his hand and you just can see from his expression that he knew he would get away with it.

Anyway, close this goddamn thread already :D Sick of Real...
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
32,418
Marcelo handball was blatant as fuck bro. You gotta understand the psychological aspect this kinda aspects have on opposition too, it all builds up. Imagine how Pool players felt when an opponent brakes your best player's shoulder and gets away with it, your opponents left-back stops the ball with his hand and you just can see from his expression that he knew he would get away with it.

Anyway, close this goddamn thread already :D Sick of Real...
You're talking about 'psychological aspect' when we face similar situations in big games in Serie A where teams complain about us getting every 50-50 call in favour of us. That's just making up more excuses for not winning imo. No wonder we're Napoli of Europe these days. Again dont tell me the difference between league and CL. Its become pointless arguing on and on about this with you so lets just agree to disagree. :tup:
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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Marcelo handball was blatant as $#@! bro. You gotta understand the psychological aspect this kinda aspects have on opposition too, it all builds up. Imagine how Pool players felt when an opponent brakes your best player's shoulder and gets away with it, your opponents left-back stops the ball with his hand and you just can see from his expression that he knew he would get away with it.

Anyway, close this goddamn thread already :D Sick of Real...
:agree:

Want pretty much anyone bar them to win it the coming years (maybe expect premfaces), but just tired of this Real dominance :p
 

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