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pitbull

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Jul 26, 2007
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Whether it's a red or not is a different story, it might have been hard for the ref to decide intent. But to me it was definitely intentional. Maybe not to dislocate his shoulder, but to do some damage
:tup: Ramos was probably trying to intimidate Salah and hurt him a bit, doubt he's so fucked up that he actually wanted to injure the guy and make him miss the rest of the final and WC. still it's more red than yellow to me, but, of course, given that it's a start of CL final, I'm not sure many refs would give that in the heat of the moment even if they had VAR. probably I myself wouldn't if I was refereeing that game
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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It is. Just watched another video. Ramos actually looks like keeping his arm in lock. I still won’t say it’s a definitely red. I just can’t see how it’s a reckless challenge.
I've seen it from several angles and I think Ramos knows what he's doing. It's also unnatural. Think about it, he's falling to the ground, so his natural response would be to protect himself and land on his hands. Instead he holds on to Salah. He's making sure Salah goes down with him.

Whether or not he had the intention to hurt Salah is something else. He probably only wanted to prevent him from escaping with the ball. But it is definitely intentional.

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Unfortunately VAR will be bad for us now as Ronaldo as great as he is scores an offside goal every season..
At least Ramos will get some reds..

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:tup: Ramos was probably trying to intimidate Salah and hurt him a bit, doubt he's so $#@!ed up that he actually wanted to injure the guy and make him miss the rest of the final and WC. still it's more red than yellow to me, but, of course, given that it's a start of CL final, I'm not sure many refs would give that in the heat of the moment even if they had VAR. probably I myself wouldn't if I was refereeing that game
I dont think Ramos`s challenge on Salah was really that intentional in terms of the result but he should have given the boot for what he did to Karius
 

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