Antonio Conte (81 Viewers)

[Ocelot]

http://www.ghanacelebrities.com/201...s-a-friday-how-come-he-is-called-kwadwo-then/

I can't make any statements about Ghana specifically, but I know of regions where the official date of birth is the date that the parents and family showed up to the local registry, not the actual date of birth. So he could've easily been born on Monday, and then got registered a few days later on Friday.

Or as the article states, maybe he's simply named after some other guy called Kwadwo.

 

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[Seven]

http://www.ghanacelebrities.com/201...s-a-friday-how-come-he-is-called-kwadwo-then/

Born on a Friday, yet called Kwadwo. 'Tis truly a miracle.

 

[Hist]

There was rumours of Asamoah joining the club a few months ago but everything seems to have stalled since then. Still, we have 21yo Nathan Ake on loan at Bournemouth who is a wonderfull player and very highly rated. Scored Bournemouth's winner this week-end away at Stoke playing as a centre back. His main position is left back, but can play centre midfielder as well. He said in an interview two months ago that Conte has assured him he has a future at the club and would like to follow his development this season mostly as a centre midfielder and left back. He's not had that many minutes this season under Eddie Howe but still as I said Ake is a top prospect in the mould of David Alaba.

Also we have Baba Rahman on loan at Schalke. He'd have been perfect I guess for this left wingback position, but Conte and Chelsea took the decision of sending him out on loan very early in the season when we was playing four at the back. Baba Rahman said that Conte told him to go out on loan because he was too offensive minded and he wanted more of an all round full back, rather than one that bombs forward at every given opportunity. Yep he looked a bit suspect when having to defend but as I said earlier this was when Conte was using the four man defence. Now with the new setup I think that Baba Rahman would have provided a good alternative for that left wingback position. But with me saying this don't take anything away from Marcos Alonso. Some have dubbed him as a Bolton or Sunderland reject and laughed at Chelsea when we bought him, but for me he is a real revelation. He is calm, composed, good at going forward, very good in the air, can pass the ball with ease and looks good when he has to defend. His only flaws I think are the one on ones (which Azpilicueta masters btw, probably in top 3 1v1 defenders in the world) and his pace - he is a bit slow to be fair.

But if Conte can make David Luiz look like Beckenbauer in his prime and this two guys (Marcos Alonso and Moses) look like the ultimate defenders, then I can't wait to see what he has in store for our highly rated Academy products on loan such as Gladbach's Andreas Christensen, or Tammy Abraham, Charly Musonda jr., Jeremie Boga, Nathan Ake, Lewis Baker.

Over rating one's team's youth products is universal. Want to bet how many of these young players will turn out to be utter shit?

The Chelsea De Ceglies and Mandragoras

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Asamoah is finished, but I do hope Conte buys him

Assuming he stops getting injured (big if).. do you think he cant cut it as a LWB?

 

[Scottish]

My favourite part of that article is when it referred to Baffour Gyan as a 'Senior Brother'
@Fr3sh

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I can't make any statements about Ghana specifically, but I know of regions where the official date of birth is the date that the parents and family showed up to the local registry, not the actual date of birth. So he could've easily been born on Monday, and then got registered a few days later on Friday.

Or as the article states, maybe he's simply named after some other guy called Kwadwo.

So who knows how old he really is

Born on a Friday, yet called Kwadwo. 'Tis truly a miracle.

His tool so big it took 4 days to get all out

 

[lgorTudor]

He came out with his knee injured and had to recover first

 

[Fr3sh]

My favourite part of that article is when it referred to Baffour Gyan as a 'Senior Brother'
@Fr3sh

 

[Conte in London]

Over rating one's team's youth products is universal. Want to bet how many of these young players will turn out to be utter $#@!?

The Chelsea De Ceglies and Mandragoras

UEFA Youth League has been going on since 2012 time in which Chelsea's Academy has won the trophy twice (2015, 2016) and played another Final (2013). Now of course the young lads are not there to defend their trophy since the seniors are not playing Champions League football this season. In England they've won everything that was to be won domestically, league titles, FA Youth cups, you name it. The club has got a state of the art facility going on and this is the best Academy in the country. Every England youth team is filled with Chelsea lads starting from the U-16s to the U-21s. They say that City's Academy is coming in full force but Chelsea have met them this year in April for the FA Youth Cup Final and frankly it was men v boys rather than a Cup final between the two best Academies in the country. Chelsea beat them 4-2 on aggregate but frankly had Chelsea put 10 behind them no one could have said a thing.

It's not about overrating anything it's about having the right manager to pick them young lads and introduce them to the first team. Talent is there for everybody to see it thing is we've never had a manager to give these guys a proper chance. Felt the bitterness in your words but you got it wrong this time. I was not banging on how good of a youth setup we have and how great we are, I was just expressing my enthusiasm of finally having a manager ready to give players a chance regardless of their name and age.

 

[Osman]

Christensen and Musonda are very good talents, they never played for Chelsea youth teams but defenitely not only De Ceglies there.

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[Dominic]

I like Max, but would take Conte back in a heartbeat.

 

[Hist]

UEFA Youth League has been going on since 2012 time in which Chelsea's Academy has won the trophy twice (2015, 2016) and played another Final (2013). Now of course the young lads are not there to defend their trophy since the seniors are not playing Champions League football this season. In England they've won everything that was to be won domestically, league titles, FA Youth cups, you name it. The club has got a state of the art facility going on and this is the best Academy in the country. Every England youth team is filled with Chelsea lads starting from the U-16s to the U-21s. They say that City's Academy is coming in full force but Chelsea have met them this year in April for the FA Youth Cup Final and frankly it was men v boys rather than a Cup final between the two best Academies in the country. Chelsea beat them 4-2 on aggregate but frankly had Chelsea put 10 behind them no one could have said a thing.

It's not about overrating anything it's about having the right manager to pick them young lads and introduce them to the first team. Talent is there for everybody to see it thing is we've never had a manager to give these guys a proper chance. Felt the bitterness in your words but you got it wrong this time. I was not banging on how good of a youth setup we have and how great we are, I was just expressing my enthusiasm of finally having a manager ready to give players a chance regardless of their name and age.

No bitterness. I don't believe big clubs should rely on youngsters for the most part because a lot of the promising ones will turn out mediocre.

 

[lgorTudor]

I like Max, but would take Conte back in a heartbeat.

We've outgrown Conte's action scope

 

[GordoDeCentral]

We've outgrown Conte's action scope

What's our scope now

 

[il brutto]

No bitterness. I don't believe big clubs should rely on youngsters for the most part because a lot of the promising ones will turn out mediocre.

Agreed. Very few make it in the end and some of those who do make it will do it in other teams. Even Barca has had this problem in recent years with many youth players seeking room from other places (Bellerin, Icardi, Grimaldo).

 

[zizinho]

Over rating one's team's youth products is universal. Want to bet how many of these young players will turn out to be utter shit?

The Chelsea De Ceglies and Mandragoras

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Assuming he stops getting injured (big if).. do you think he cant cut it as a LWB?

I don't think he can at such a high level anymore, not on a position and in a league where you normally need to do more running than usual. Seems like he lost a lot of that physicallity which was one of his main strengths before he became a criple

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So who knows how old he really is



His tool so big it took 4 days to get all out

 

[Hist]

Agreed. Very few make it in the end and some of those who do make it will do it in other teams. Even Barca has had this problem in recent years with many youth players seeking room from other places (Bellerin, Icardi, Grimaldo).

who is grimaldo

 

[pitbull]

UEFA Youth League has been going on since 2012 time in which Chelsea's Academy has won the trophy twice (2015, 2016) and played another Final (2013). Now of course the young lads are not there to defend their trophy since the seniors are not playing Champions League football this season. In England they've won everything that was to be won domestically, league titles, FA Youth cups, you name it. The club has got a state of the art facility going on and this is the best Academy in the country. Every England youth team is filled with Chelsea lads starting from the U-16s to the U-21s. They say that City's Academy is coming in full force but Chelsea have met them this year in April for the FA Youth Cup Final and frankly it was men v boys rather than a Cup final between the two best Academies in the country. Chelsea beat them 4-2 on aggregate but frankly had Chelsea put 10 behind them no one could have said a thing.

It's not about overrating anything it's about having the right manager to pick them young lads and introduce them to the first team. Talent is there for everybody to see it thing is we've never had a manager to give these guys a proper chance. Felt the bitterness in your words but you got it wrong this time. I was not banging on how good of a youth setup we have and how great we are, I was just expressing my enthusiasm of finally having a manager ready to give players a chance regardless of their name and age.

If you were a Watford size club and had this great academy I agree, you should get a manager that's great polishing youth. But considering you want to compete for the league title every season and challenge for CL when you have the chance I doubt you'll see much of those youngsters under any manager. Few of the youngsters will make it and maybe one will end up to be a regular starter and that will be more because of that one guys individual talent and effort and not because of the greatness of the academy. 90ties United don't happen very often, I'm sure you know that.

 

[Hist]

If you were a Watford size club and had this great academy I agree, you should get a manager that's great polishing youth. But considering you want to compete for the league title every season and challenge for CL when you have the chance I doubt you'll see much of those youngsters under any manager. Few of the youngsters will make it and maybe one will end up to be a regular starter and that will be more because of that one guys individual talent and effort and not because of the greatness of the academy. 90ties United don't happen very often, I'm sure you know that.

Especially when their 1st 11 is in crisis and needs top quality reinforcements NOW. Juve today have the luxury to slowly introduce Rugani because our defense is already rock solid and there is no shortage of top defenders in our roster and on our bench. We can achieve our targets with or without Rugani and so there is no harm in giving him some game time and slowly integrating him in the squad we will reach our targets anyway.

Its an entirely different story if all our defenders were old and unreliable with no bench in sight and we needed Rugani to perform at the highest level now to meet our season targets. A team that wants to compete for top honors regularly cannot rely on kids (unless they are broke) turning out great. They need guaranteed quality now + 1 or 2 kids for the future.

Juve has good young talents in lemina & sturururu and we struggle because we have to rely on them performing at the highest level now. Its a different story if Pogba was still here.

 

[il brutto]

who is grimaldo

Benfica left back.

 

[Conte in London]

Agree with you lads. Nobody expects Antonio Conte to be bringing all the loanies back at introduce them into the first team immediately. But assuming we finish top 4 this season, we will be playing four competitions next season with a hectic schedule and away games throughout all Europe. Big squad is needed, some will get a lot of playing time, some will stay on the bench and some will see time in the stands. The likes of Oscar and Cesc Fabregas are not going to accept the bench role forever and they will be eventually sold (this coming winter, or next summer, remains to be seen, clearly they are not in Conte's plan anymore). Then there is Willian who's lost in place in favour of Pedro Rodriguez and I have my doubts whether he'll be back in the first team anytime soon, so there's a possibility he will be asking for a transfer, too, next summer. And frankly it's for the best - he is a workhorse merchant at best, has no end product and slows the game down. John Terry, Ivanovic and Obi Mikel are running out of contracts at the end of the season and they will not be given an extension.

So come next summer there is a lot of empty spots in the squad that need to be filled up. Plus the eventual new arrivals ready to slot into the first team immediately because history has shown us every season that the first team must be improved regardless of the place you end up during the previous season. We've made this mistake once, with Mourinho, when he failed to improve the squad after the title winning season and went into the new season with the same line-up. His big ego and constant favoritism stayed in the way and chose not to improve the squad because "how can you drop a player after a title winning season?". Well it showed that you can and this was his undoing in the end. Chelsea is not going to make the same mistake twice.

From our calculations, Conte will have at least 200m+ (maybe even 250m) to spend next summer (money provided from the club, the eventual departures, Nike deal starts next summer plus the new TV deal kicking off). This w/o taking in consideration the money he'll be spending this winter. Obviously you can't fill all the empty spots in the squad with new arrivals only. There is a lot of matches to be played and I have no doubts that youngsters will see more playing time in the League Cup, the FA Cup and probably at home against the likes of Burnley, Sunderland or WBA. Especially if these come before or after difficult Champions League matches. This is what I was talking about. Nobody asks for a Chelsea team full of Academy products, but if Conte can introduce at least three or four youngsters to the squad and give them playing time then we're all happy.