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How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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I'm fairly sure that the Pogba comments are a trick directly from the p. 3 of the Galliani handbook of creating succes from nothing. Pogba is going to renew in a couple of days and everyone will be like "Oh Agnelli totally handled the Pogba exit rumours brilliantly". You can see that in newspapers, no one is talking about how the entire deal was sparked - they're just debating who is going to sign him :D .
wut no
 

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DelPiero no10

Junior Member
Aug 19, 2013
283
The problem isn't our formation, our problem is the quality of footballers in our team. While we do have some quality in the side we don't have any zidanes or Del Piero's. If we had better quality, no one would be compaining about our formation.

The Bayern games have certainly made people negative towards our formation. We lost because their team has significantly more quality than ours. Their players are technically and physically way superior than ours. Look how we dismantled chelsea with our formation, we made them look amateurish but they themselves aren't an elite team.

We need to start moving the ball better and we can only do that by getting better footballers.
 

DelPiero no10

Junior Member
Aug 19, 2013
283
So what you're saying is that there are only 5 quality teams out there, at most. Makes sense.
When did I say that? We're not an elite side because we don't have players of the quality to compete with the very finest in the world. There are currently 4 elite teams(Bayern, Madrid, Dortmund(dependent on gundogans fitness), Barca). Arsenal and City are trying really hard to join the huddle.
We aren't going to join the elite sides unless we get a team together with some proper quality.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
40,174
I only see Bayern, Barca, and Madrid as having something extra (provided we play to our potential).

Other than that, we are on equal footing with the likes of Chelsea, City, PSG (most definitely not in terms of financial muscle as regards that vaunted trio), Arsenal, Dortmund, and United.
 

DelPiero no10

Junior Member
Aug 19, 2013
283
We can't buy those players, so...

This isn't turning into a Ravel Morrison argument, is it? :D
Atm there are plenty of youngsters with potential to be world class one day. A lot of hidden gems running around. Look how easily belgium managed to qualify for the world cup despite playing with a bunch of kids in their early 20's. We probably can't afford morrison unless we make a big sale, or make a move now(we won't)

Hidden gems is where its at for us in our financial situation but if we intend to blame our formation for our failures or go into the market and get in some average seria a talent we're going nowhere quickly.

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We can't buy those players, so...

This isn't turning into a Ravel Morrison argument, is it? :D
Atm there are plenty of youngsters with potential to be world class one day. A lot of hidden gems running around. Look how easily belgium managed to qualify for the world cup despite playing with a bunch of kids in their early 20's. We probably can't afford morrison unless we make a big sale, or make a move now(we won't)

Hidden gems is where its at for us in our financial situation but if we intend to blame our formation for our failures or go into the market and get in some average seria a talent we're going nowhere quickly.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I doubt we'll win anything with a bunch of players early 20s, and that includes Serie A. Depends whether you fancy putting up with a couple of development seasons. Judging by this forum's reaction to a couple of draws I'd say that is extremely unlikely.
 

rakib567

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Apr 27, 2013
10,087
in order to develop yuongsters we need to use them as 2nd choice subs. this was done by dortmund in the 2010/2012 season where lewadolski was playing as sub and he scored about 8 goals behind their main striker who scored around 20. after they let lewadolski play 1st choice striker and he scored 25 goals for them. we should do this with gabbiadini.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
No, we should only do this when the player is showing he has the potential to be good enough to play for the team.

A guy like marrone, put him in a team with Zidane, Pirlo, Veron, Redondo, Xavi, Iniesta, and it wont change a thing about his potential. at most he'd reach it sooner.


Pogba, great example. We bought him, thinking "allright, he definatly is pretty talented, but we'll give him a game or two". then he devellops like a rocket, bursting into the team with 30+ games first year.
Thats excellent. Its because pogba is talented as fuck.

So, gabbiadini ? what has he shown that he could challenge with tevez ? or even vucinic ?
If our coaching staff dont think he'll be anywere near that, we shouldnt bother. Just use as an emergency, like marrone.
 

DelPiero no10

Junior Member
Aug 19, 2013
283
in order to develop yuongsters we need to use them as 2nd choice subs. this was done by dortmund in the 2010/2012 season where lewadolski was playing as sub and he scored about 8 goals behind their main striker who scored around 20. after they let lewadolski play 1st choice striker and he scored 25 goals for them. we should do this with gabbiadini.
Not really, you should just give them quality game time provided they've got the potential to reach a high level. Dortmund might've used lewa as a 2nd choice, but they had hummels, Sahin, subotic, kagawa, gotze starting for them at the same time and they are all younger than him.

They won back to back titles because of the kids they had in their team instead of persevering with talentless experienced players.
 

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