Antonio Conte (78 Viewers)

[Paid-off-Ref]

You don't say, a short fuse tends to get you in trouble.

Btw, how does this ban actually work? He can't enter the locker room at halftime but can he call the players? Is it possible, I don't know, to install a big screen tv in the locker room and have Conte on direct feed?

 

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[Mark]

Plea bargain: 3 months suspension + €20 000 fine official on Wednesday. (La Stampa)

200 000 €

 

[mukumsplau]

can someone shed some light on the new rat that climbed out of the woodwork talking about a couple bari games under conte?

 

[Mark]

You don't say, a short fuse tends to get you in trouble.

Btw, how does this ban actually work? He can't enter the locker room at halftime but can he call the players? Is it possible, I don't know, to install a big screen tv in the locker room and have Conte on direct feed?

If he can sit in the stands and buy a tickets then he could be one seat next to the "panchina".

 

[-=DJANGO=-]

The details for such an arrangement would be worked out in the plea agreement, because there is no 'standard ban' process as far as I know. That's already hilarious enough as bias is guaranteed, but we can't stop laughing cause we know we are in Italy and close to creating a new process similar to online club management. I still remember Mourinho from the stands when he was banned for a few games - it was already an epic joke- and that was his point, I assume, showing off his disrespect towards a system that doesn't deserve any. This is why Mou is more than a manager, but thats another topic...
At first I was worried and a bit confused about the whole situation. Now I am numb to the whole thing. It screams of injustice and frankly no foreseeable decision will make anything better so...

 

[Mark]

can someone shed some light on the new rat that climbed out of the woodwork talking about a couple bari games under conte?

some guy that got accused of fixing games(3-5 years ago; settled for a 14 month ban, then got only 4 months) came out of nowhere yesterday by sending a 2 page fax(yes a fax) to Palazzi saying 2 other games of Bari were rigged. No mention in the media of Conte's involvement in this one but some say he mentions Conte by saying he "heard" some players say this and that...

BS!

when you go for a plea bargain and decide to collaborate you have to say EVERYTHING you know. Now he send this fax right when there's talk if Conte will plea bargain or not. He wouldn't be credible now in court.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

If he fights for his innocence is it guaranteed he gets a 12month ban?

If I was Agnelli, I would already be looking for a temp replacement for however long Conte is banned for. Fuck it, this is Conte's life we are talking about and no one should have to sacrifice carrying a "criminal tag" for life jut for the sake of a shorter punishment to appease fans.

Either way...if he takes the plea with a short ban it will have a "guilty tag"...if he tries to fight and gets the 12month ban he still gets the "guilty tag" regardless.

Fight for your right to be innocent. Its his life we are talking about. More important than a season.

 

[Fake Melo]

Horrible situation, but I think taking the plea bargain is the right thing for Conte to do, from Juve's point of view, at least.

To take a three month ban (only two months really in the season) is a sensible decision to take in the circumstances.

If there is no faith in the system and it has already been decided that Carobbio's testimony will be trusted, I don't see how Conte can win the case.

That being the case, it's better just to cut one's losses and move on, as hard to swallow as it may be.

For what it's worth, I suspect Conte is probably guilty of the charge of not reporting a fix.

All I can say is that I look forward to all the others that there seems to be evidence against (various Napoli players, for instance) also being charged with the same offence.

Didn't Napoli prosecutors drop the case against Cannavaro & co?

 

[Mark]

Napoli prosecutors will start their case after the Supercopa.

 

[Red]

If he can sit in the stands and buy a tickets then he could be one seat next to the "panchina".

Aberdeen manager a couple of seasons ago after being sent to the stand during a game - sat in the front row and in the nearest seat the the bench:

 

[Mark]

Aberdeen manager a couple of seasons ago after being sent to the stand during a game - sat in the front row and in the nearest seat the the bench:

 

[Red]

Didn't Napoli prosecutors drop the case against Cannavaro & co?

I thought there was some pretty damning stuff coming out about their players before a game away to Sampdoria (I think it was Samp, anyway).

Enough of a prima facie case that something more ought to have come of it.

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[j0ker]

But isn't it forbidden to give instructions when you are banned?

 

[Mark]

But isn't it forbidden to give instructions when you are banned?

I don't know but if he wants I could sit on his left and I'll tell Baroni/Carrera/Nedved or whoever is the temp coach what to do. There's always a way.

 

[Marceℓℓo]

Plea bargain = admission of guilt.

I don't think so.

 

[Red]

Officially a plea bargain has to be seen as an admission of guilt, as far as I'm concerned.

That's not to say that Conte is actually guilty in practice because he takes the plea bargain - it could just be that he isn't able to prove his innocence, so he's taking the plea bargain to cut his losses.

 

[Mark]

I think it's even more complicated in showing your innocence in a sporting trial when you have like 5min to defend yourself and are guilty until proven innocent. That's why I'm scared about Bonucci. I hope he brings on facts to the table like phone records and stuff showing Masiello didn't call him or send a sms...things like that.

 

[Klovn]

Napoli prosecutors will start their case after the Supercopa.

Italy

 

[Marceℓℓo]

Officially a plea bargain has to be seen as an admission of guilt, as far as I'm concerned.

That's not to say that Conte is actually guilty in practice because he takes the plea bargain - it could just be that he isn't able to prove his innocence, so he's taking the plea bargain to cut his losses.

In civil court it is, it is another thing in a sporting court though. They basically accept the plea bargain in order to avoid the more or less "useless" debate as Conte has a close to zero chance to prove his innocence. The plea bargain represents an opportunity Conte looks to take.

That's how I understood it at least.

 

[napoleonic]

the ruling is based on retarded italian sporting law, why should it extended to the european games as well? that could in theory lead to european teams finding loopholes on other countries' law and make european teams get punished to gain advantage

yeah conspiracy theories