I'm not a massive barcelona fan such as yourself, so i'm not having an exceptionally subjective bias to whatever coach wins the club of your heart trophee's as both a player and manager.
I understand you tho. As a juventus fan, i have this with Conte.
I understand this great love makes you paint a completely different picture of the facts, its okay.
The Barcelona with Ronaldinho and Deco had come at the end of its cycle under Rijkaard, changing to 4-3-3 but not working all that well. All those players left at the end of the season. Rijkaard had greatly underperformed, but it was mostly on bad purchases and players at the end of their career that massively disappointed such as deco and ronaldinho.
Guardiola came, and shipped out the failures. He allready had Valdes, Abidal, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta,toure(when he still ran), Messi, eto'o. He was gifted the worlds best rightback with Dani Alves, the defence was finalised with Pique, and through the yought came Busquets, the key holding cm for guardiola
Becomming a worldclass coach, Guardiola should receive the praise for quickly making the perfect players for his system work, and showing just how much frank fucked up.
Today, alot are debating wheter juve's first scudetto is such an achievement, considering how extremely talented the central midfield was. Its a fair point. But when looking at the astonishing amount of talent that barcelona team had, its exponentially more serious for Guardiola.
I do like how he went to city, kicked out all the trash, and made his system work. really shaming all previous coaches
I understand you tho. As a juventus fan, i have this with Conte.
I understand this great love makes you paint a completely different picture of the facts, its okay.
The Barcelona with Ronaldinho and Deco had come at the end of its cycle under Rijkaard, changing to 4-3-3 but not working all that well. All those players left at the end of the season. Rijkaard had greatly underperformed, but it was mostly on bad purchases and players at the end of their career that massively disappointed such as deco and ronaldinho.
Guardiola came, and shipped out the failures. He allready had Valdes, Abidal, Puyol, Xavi, Iniesta,toure(when he still ran), Messi, eto'o. He was gifted the worlds best rightback with Dani Alves, the defence was finalised with Pique, and through the yought came Busquets, the key holding cm for guardiola
Becomming a worldclass coach, Guardiola should receive the praise for quickly making the perfect players for his system work, and showing just how much frank fucked up.
Today, alot are debating wheter juve's first scudetto is such an achievement, considering how extremely talented the central midfield was. Its a fair point. But when looking at the astonishing amount of talent that barcelona team had, its exponentially more serious for Guardiola.
I do like how he went to city, kicked out all the trash, and made his system work. really shaming all previous coaches
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I'll tell you what. Answer those 2 questions for me and I will shut up. But give a clear complete answer.
1) What was he supposed to do at Barca to count as world class for you? Tell me "if only he won X or Y trophy, his Barca tenure would have been world class".
2) Tell me what another coach (that you see as WC) would have achieved with that same squad that Pep didn't? "Lippi would have won 4 CL titles out of 4"
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